Quote (chopstickz777 @ 24 Feb 2022 19:40)

The next stage is forgiveness.Then the world can begin a process of healing, while the former empire that terrorized the world fades to black and is no more.

Quote (ofthevoid @ Feb 24 2022 06:33pm)

Defensive alliance that toppled Libya and Iraq and would do the same to Russia in a heartbeat if Russia was much weaker. I mean the type of attitude you displayed is precisely why Russia is going off. How many times have you pointed to their small and declining economy therefore their concerns are irrelevant and in reality they are a very weak nation. That's the general attitude in the west, and now you're seeing the natural reaction to that type of disrespect.

Quote (chopstickz777 @ Feb 24 2022 10:44am)

HAH - what makes you think I care if the sheep of the world see me as being credible or not?

Fact is, I understand Russia's position completely. You do not and will never see them as anything more than abominable snow-negroes that want to terrorize the planet and just start wars for the sake of it because they are evil terrorist murderers, without making any attempt to comprehend their actions.

You and all those like you live in an alternate reality where everything is sideways and the truth is drowned out in a mountain of lies. You can't think straight and you can't think clearly.

Luckily, I broke free of that propaganda matrix long ago and so are many, many more of my fellow American citizens at this time. It's like a tidal wave that can't be stopped.

Quote (IceMage @ Feb 24 2022 07:15pm)

Allowing Russia to have a sphere of influence where they can undermine the will of sovereign countries undermines the whole idea of a rules-based international order.

I'm not saying Russia has no legitimate security concerns, as if NATO should park nuclear weapons on their border without them reacting. But I don't accept the argument that "Russia has historically been a world power and has a bunch of nukes, so a chunk of the world has to be left to them, no matter the will of the people who live in those countries".

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Quote (thesnipa @ Feb 24 2022 07:24pm)

Obama tried to build relations with the budding nuclear state of Iran and was called a madman for expecting them to actually respect treaties and agreements.

but somehow the West is supposed to trust a nation run by oligarchs where the KGB kept control despite the "fall of communism" as they faked becoming democratic and gave concessions of land and resources because they had no choice due to their financial situation. Russia is a pit of snakes that downsized on it's edge to maintain central control of the corrupt overlords that still run the place. they're Iran just replace the outright rage of the middle east terrorists with a smirk and an actual nuclear arsenal.

Quote (dro94 @ Feb 24 2022 01:49pm)

Sounds like you're justifying the brutal invasion of a country because of...hurt feelings

Quote (Djunior @ Feb 24 2022 01:52pm)

While the West is being run by woke big tech billionaires, woke corrupt MSM and swamp demon politicians. You should look at things from both sides. The West has been involved in regime changes all over the world in all sorts of illegal operations.