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Mar 17 2020 04:19pm
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"I like the numbers where they are"

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Perhaps the scariest thing in the report, even worse than the death toll if there is no suppressive action taken (which is now being pursued), is that we can only afford to relax social distancing measures significantly 18 months from now when a vaccine is available en masse. How are schools, universities and businesses going to operate? I think the former two are pretty easy to solve in terms of online teaching but most businesses are not tech or finance based and will struggle. What happens to holidays abroad? The hospitality sector?


Like I said before in this thread: there's no fucking way the current shutdown levels, let alone even more stringent ones, can be kept for 12 or 18 months. The economic ramifications would be catastrophic. Our entire economic system is like a house of cards - you really dont have to take out many cards for all of it to come crashing down.
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https://twitter.com/SalehaMohsin/status/1240045093958057985

SCOOP: Mnuchin warned the U.S. could see 20% unemployment in a meeting with Republican senators on Tuesday, sources tell
@josh_wingrove
, me and
@JenniferJJacobs


Thanks Obama.
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Mar 17 2020 05:57pm
All this has really showed is how lucky we are that a novel virus has not jumped to humans and spread that has a 15-30% or higher fatality rate , basically anything moderately severe would cause societal collapse and doubt we could even prevent it or contain it.

Maybe our government won't decide to defund the CDC and get rid of infectious disease/pandemic experts all in the name of saving tax dollars in the future but still maintain 500+ billion dollar defense budgets.

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The point is to compare the consequences of no response vs. supression and mitigation efforts.

All you've done in the thread is complain about normal people being concerned and experts telling us what they know or predict. If you have a contrary study, go ahead and post it. Otherwise, why would anyone assume your rosy attitude is realistic? You seem to be approaching this emotionally, while claiming others are doing the same by relying on experts.


I don't have a rosy attitude, i do however think that overreacting to this is just as dangerous. I personally know many people that are dependent on weekly paychecks and that have been told their place of employment is shut down for at least 2 months. There could be a domino effect that brings our society to it's knees and the 20% unemployment rate you brought up is just one example.

Idk, maybe because i work in spreadsheets everyday and use basic stats fairly regularly but i understand that the 2.2 mil figure is a worst case scenario with a low probability derived from hypothetical that are completely unrealistic, so to quote that as a headline is misleading and irresponsible because it causes unneeded panic and skews public opinion to overreacting. What will most likely happen is whats called the expected value, which is the sum of all the potential scenarios weighted by their probability. It's like me going to my boss and telling him we can lose our ass if 14 different variables are worst case scenarios which will result in billions in negative cash flows without letting him know that out of 100,000 simulations that happens twice.

Your problem is you're too conditioned to listen to the experts that you've become mentally lazy in critically thinking about the world yourself. Just like the experts told you 100% Russia collusion and you posted about it everyday while i laughed and didn't bother to keep up on something that was so obviously political if you could just see the forest from the trees.
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I don't have a rosy attitude, i do however think that overreacting to this is just as dangerous. I personally know many people that are dependent on weekly paychecks and that have been told their place of employment is shut down for at least 2 months. There could be a domino effect that brings our society to it's knees and the 20% unemployment rate you brought up is just one example.

Idk, maybe because i work in spreadsheets everyday and use basic stats fairly regularly but i understand that the 2.2 mil figure is a worst case scenario with a low probability derived from hypothetical that are completely unrealistic, so to quote that as a headline is misleading and irresponsible because it causes unneeded panic and skews public opinion to overreacting. What will most likely happen is whats called the expected value, which is the sum of all the potential scenarios weighted by their probability. It's like me going to my boss and telling him we can lose our ass if 14 different variables are worst case scenarios which will result in billions in negative cash flows without letting him know that out of 100,000 simulations that happens twice.

Your problem is you're too conditioned to listen to the experts that you've become mentally lazy in critically thinking about the world yourself. Just like the experts told you 100% Russia collusion and you posted about it everyday while i laughed and didn't bother to keep up on something that was so obviously political if you could just see the forest from the trees.


The goal is to not be Italy. It's quite possible that we already acted too late but I'm hopeful. I imagine my WFH situation will be this way for a minimum of 8 weeks.

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All this has really showed is how lucky we are that a novel virus has not jumped to humans and spread that has a 15-30% or higher fatality rate , basically anything moderately severe would cause societal collapse and doubt we could even prevent it or contain it.

Maybe our government won't decide to defund the CDC and get rid of infectious disease/pandemic experts all in the name of saving tax dollars in the future but still maintain 500+ billion dollar defense budgets.


But but but Ron Paul says it's a gross violation of my freedom!!

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Quote (ofthevoid @ Mar 17 2020 07:00pm)
I don't have a rosy attitude, i do however think that overreacting to this is just as dangerous. I personally know many people that are dependent on weekly paychecks and that have been told their place of employment is shut down for at least 2 months. There could be a domino effect that brings our society to it's knees and the 20% unemployment rate you brought up is just one example.

Idk, maybe because i work in spreadsheets everyday and use basic stats fairly regularly but i understand that the 2.2 mil figure is a worst case scenario with a low probability derived from hypothetical that are completely unrealistic, so to quote that as a headline is misleading and irresponsible because it causes unneeded panic and skews public opinion to overreacting. What will most likely happen is whats called the expected value, which is the sum of all the potential scenarios weighted by their probability. It's like me going to my boss and telling him we can lose our ass if 14 different variables are worst case scenarios which will result in billions in negative cash flows without letting him know that out of 100,000 simulations that happens twice.

Your problem is you're too conditioned to listen to the experts that you've become mentally lazy in critically thinking about the world yourself. Just like the experts told you 100% Russia collusion and you posted about it everyday while i laughed and didn't bother to keep up on something that was so obviously political if you could just see the forest from the trees.


I love how you try to sell yourself as analytical and rational by saying "I work in spreadsheets every day and use basic stats"

It's super cute. I will tell you though, you sound like a freshman.

Also you calling anybody mentally lazy is just the height of irony. Overall I'd say this is a solid 10/10 post. Great meme friend!

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But but but Ron Paul says it's a gross violation of my freedom!!


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Mar 17 2020 06:31pm
Quote (sir_lance_bb @ Mar 17 2020 06:57pm)
All this has really showed is how lucky we are that a novel virus has not jumped to humans and spread that has a 15-30% or higher fatality rate , basically anything moderately severe would cause societal collapse and doubt we could even prevent it or contain it.

Maybe our government won't decide to defund the CDC and get rid of infectious disease/pandemic experts all in the name of saving tax dollars in the future but still maintain 500+ billion dollar defense budgets.


Nah, anything that's super deadly is also super detectable. The reason this has been so bad is because most people are just carriers and don't show anything but mild symptoms. It's actually easier to contain very deadly illnesses.
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