I'll take " People who feel the hangsman's noose, and try to deflect" for $500, Alex.

Don't be such a pedant.

Mueller spends 2 years investigating looking for evidence of collusion, and comes up empty. If your takeaway is that "Trump colluded, we just don't know it yet", you're a conspiracy theorist. That's fine, but it's time to dispense with the pretense that facts drive your actions.

Bogie... you've become a very dishonest person if you genuinely get that take away from my post.

Fact is the Individual-1 popularity did not increase at all since the report.

Trump drags too many pans*

*French proverb for someone who is grilled by too much scandals/bad stories.

Accepting dirt from a person as part of a hostile foreign government's plan to help your campaign is collusion. And if you accept it as part of a quid-pro-quo, it probably violates conspiracy laws.

News flash: not every investigation rightly started results in a conviction. That's why they investigate.



Why?

The NYT as a whole is biased to the left, as is WaPo and others, but why throw the baby out with the bath water? They consistently have the best scoops. That's evident when you read the Mueller report... because we already knew most of what's in it(because of NYT/WaPo/NBC/etc).

I don't know why more right-wingers can't be nuanced about journalism. Ignoring the best journalists in the country because the papers as a whole are mean to conservatives makes no sense.



As part of a counter-intelligence investigation into Russia infiltrating a presidential campaign(after it was revealed that Russia hacked the DNC and Papadopolous heard from Mifsud the Russians had Hillary's emails), the FBI sent an agent to try to get information and supervise an informant.

What, you think the FBI doesn't use these sort of techniques regularly to get information? Normally they just introduce themselves as FBI agents, and politely ask if Papdopolous is conspiring with Russia? What do you think counter-intel investigators do all day? Just listen to phone calls?

This post was edited by IceMage on May 2 2019 04:37pm

Accepting dirt from a person that concerns someone who is running for president... is patriotic.
The fact that it MIGHT help your campaign is secondary at best.

- Sucking Putin is patriotic
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_elections_in_which_the_winner_lost_the_popular_vote#Comparative_table_of_elections

No. But getting dirt on Hillary, a presidential hopeful, is VERY patriotic.



/e The popular vote only counts if all the voters are both alive and legal citizens.





This post was edited by Ghot on May 2 2019 04:59pm

What I find troubling isnt your level of inconsistency it comes with politics there will always be extreme people but what I do find troubling is how many people that have turned into you during the trump years that were not that way before

What I find troubling is the number of people that live in the USA, enjoying the comforts that brings, and can't think of anything better to do than diss the very same country.

This post was edited by Ghot on May 2 2019 05:12pm