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The conversion therapy narrative was a conspiracy theory.

If anything Pence is proof of just how much hatred the left has for the right in this day and age. Pence is basically Trump but less rude - and the left still hates him.


ya and millions of americans believe Obama is a kenyan muslim. conspiracy theory or no, some shit is sticky.
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Quote (ofthevoid @ Mar 17 2020 08:25am)
Cool. Another worst-case sky is falling point of view. I wish researchers and the media would at least try to inform people that a worst case scenario that has a probability of 1/some very large number is not the expected outcome. At least put in a small paragraph, sentence or two with how E(x) is calculated and hypothetical probability distribution.

Instead people read these headlines and end up buying 200 cans of soups and preparing for doomsday.


2.2M deaths on 0 response is pretty much the expected outcome of the virus. It's not a 1/10^n chance.

That being said, we are responding at a rate of more than 0, so we'll see how that changes the impact. A month-long shutdown should sufficiently slow the spread.
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2.2M deaths on 0 response is pretty much the expected outcome of the virus. It's not a 1/10^n chance.

That being said, we are responding at a rate of more than 0, so we'll see how that changes the impact. A month-long shutdown should sufficiently slow the spread.


A zero response is as expected as a meteor wiping out China tomorrow.

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This report made our government enact tougher measures from this morning. Prior to today, we were told if we had a persistent cough or fever to self isolate for 7 days. That was pretty much it.

The new advice is for whole households to self isolate for 14 days if one member has those symptoms. It's also strongly advised that if you can work from home, then you should.

People have been advised (but not forced) to not go to mass gatherings, as well as bars, clubs, cinemas, etc. The wording there is important because telling people not to go out instead of shutting things down saves the government billions on underwritten insurance claims.

Can't help but feel it's a little too late, but better late than never. I expect London, Washington and NY to get significantly worse over the next week.
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Perhaps the scariest thing in the report, even worse than the death toll if there is no suppressive action taken (which is now being pursued), is that we can only afford to relax social distancing measures significantly 18 months from now when a vaccine is available en masse. How are schools, universities and businesses going to operate? I think the former two are pretty easy to solve in terms of online teaching but most businesses are not tech or finance based and will struggle. What happens to holidays abroad? The hospitality sector?

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Perhaps the scariest thing in the report, even worse than the death toll if there is no suppressive action taken (which is now being pursued), is that we can only afford to relax social distancing measures significantly 18 months from now when a vaccine is available en masse. How are schools, universities and businesses going to operate? I think the former two are pretty easy to solve in terms of online teaching but most businesses are not tech or finance based and will struggle. What happens to holidays abroad? The hospitality sector?


Lots of people employed in service jobs that just aren't running right now.

The economic damage can be pretty immense of these people have to go without work for 3 months, much less 18 months, and that 18 months is assuming it's a typical vaccine process. It has a chance of being especially difficult.
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Mar 17 2020 03:37pm
Vaccine could be validated in few months, all that means few more months before being available to the western population, so 12 months ? So in anyway it would not be BEFORE next north hemisphere winter.

http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2020-03/17/c_138888228.htm

After that, considering the amount of people about to be infected there's still chances for mutations and shit, but let's stay "positive".
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A zero response is as expected as a meteor wiping out China tomorrow.


The point is to compare the consequences of no response vs. supression and mitigation efforts.

All you've done in the thread is complain about normal people being concerned and experts telling us what they know or predict. If you have a contrary study, go ahead and post it. Otherwise, why would anyone assume your rosy attitude is realistic? You seem to be approaching this emotionally, while claiming others are doing the same by relying on experts.

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