Quote (Goomshill @ Oct 12 2023 10:07am)

Clearly we need to evaluate the evidence and arguments dispassionately to know what is accurate reporting and what's propaganda. How many pictures of desecrated infant corpses should someone have to view to come to a conclusion? Is there an expert on dead baby trauma we can consult to analyze whether the charred remains had their heads attached or not, or whether any breakage can be attributed to the burn damage alone? Its important to remove such analysis from any cloud of emotion, a daycare being slaughtered should just be one more data point to scrutinize

Quote (DizzyBusiness @ Oct 12 2023 09:52am)

In my opinion it is all part of how atrocity propaganda works, the evidence doesn't really matter, stories about whether it is true or false just serve to keep the initial claim in rotation.

These sorts of stories are usually proven to be false or exaggerated but no one cares because they have already served their purpose in angering people enough to support things they would normally oppose. Look at right wing America, they are chomping at the bit for another invasion after years of "America first! No more foreign wars!"



Lmao

Quote (Bazi @ Oct 12 2023 09:11am)

Is someone doubting babies are dying /have died?

I mean I know we are ignoring dead brown babies but I’m referring to white ones

Is someone actually doubting the atrocities Hamas committed here?

Quote (SBD @ Oct 12 2023 10:14am)

Nah, we are just turning a blind eye to the human collateral including children that will come from mass retaliation. Fuck those kids! They should have just left! Morons for being born there in the first place in my opinion.

Quote (SBD @ Oct 12 2023 09:14am)

Nah, we are just turning a blind eye to the human collateral including children that will come from mass retaliation. Fuck those kids! They should have just left! Morons for being born there in the first place in my opinion.

Quote (Bazi @ Oct 12 2023 09:22am)

The irony of this situation is the country is half children, not an exaggeration with the median age of the country being 18

It must be easy seeing the world so black and white ig

Quote (Goomshill @ Oct 12 2023 12:07pm)

Clearly we need to evaluate the evidence and arguments dispassionately to know what is accurate reporting and what's propaganda. How many pictures of desecrated infant corpses should someone have to view to come to a conclusion? Is there an expert on dead baby trauma we can consult to analyze whether the charred remains had their heads attached or not, or whether any breakage can be attributed to the burn damage alone? Its important to remove such analysis from any cloud of emotion, a daycare being slaughtered should just be one more data point to scrutinize

Quote (thesnipa @ Oct 12 2023 12:13pm)

in general, sure. in context, it doesnt matter if Hamas militants beheaded 1 baby, or 44 babies, or 420.69 babies. the outrage comes from the purposeful killing of babies, and the knowledge that some number were beheaded shot, and burned.

now if it comes out that zero, literally zero, babies were beheaded and it was made up by a battalion to make hamas look even worse, sure. but that doesnt appear to be the case, and its hard to make hamas in this look like anything but human scum.

Quote (thesnipa @ 12 Oct 2023 17:13)

in general, sure. in context, it doesnt matter if Hamas militants beheaded 1 baby, or 44 babies, or 420.69 babies. the outrage comes from the purposeful killing of babies, and the knowledge that some number were beheaded shot, and burned.

now if it comes out that zero, literally zero, babies were beheaded and it was made up by a battalion to make hamas look even worse, sure. but that doesnt appear to be the case, and its hard to make hamas in this look like anything but human scum.

Quote (Landmine @ Oct 12 2023 09:23am)

I remember before the bombing even took place Israel told people to leave Gaza, because they were going to attack.

Quote (Meanwhile @ Oct 12 2023 10:32am)

Despite being completely amoral and wrong:
"One beheaded baby" is not the same than "40 beheaded babies". In the same way, "1 Goomshill" is not the same than "40 Goomshills" ...