Quote (FantasyWorldII @ 2 Jun 2024 02:22)
I said this:
"Most of us are not directly impacted by this "war" but we are still humans and feel empathy for people who have been wronged. Doesnt matter if they are jewsor arabs."
So no i did not forget anything.
If you like lists then here you go :D
1) If you think you can get rid of hamas then you did not follow history.
2) I am not into whataboutism at all but seems like you are. So thats for you: "whining and bitching" about oct 7 wont help. This happens if a population is being suppressed. Poor little innocent Israel. am i right?
3) Destroying schools, universities, hospitals etc is not a war against hamas.
My point is WAR will bring more WAR... especially if its so close to home. 15k children killed!!! Israel's blood lust should have been satisfied by now.
If you think Israel is going to be safer after this, then once again you did not follow history. Killing children is not a solution to anything... it only fuels more war. Its a great way to create more hamas.
To be against this war and getting the hostages back is a duh...
I dont like mentioning pre oct 7 because its a waste of time and energy. We need to focus to get the hostages back and stop the war permanently. You can not kill more people and then act surprised if there are new terrorists. :bonk:
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Quote (FantasyWorldII @ 2 Jun 2024 02:22)
I said this:
"Most of us are not directly impacted by this "war" but we are still humans and feel empathy for people who have been wronged. Doesnt matter if they are jewsor arabs."
So no i did not forget anything.
If you like lists then here you go :D
1) If you think you can get rid of hamas then you did not follow history.
2) I am not into whataboutism at all but seems like you are. So thats for you: "whining and bitching" about oct 7 wont help. This happens if a population is being suppressed. Poor little innocent Israel. am i right?
3) Destroying schools, universities, hospitals etc is not a war against hamas.
My point is WAR will bring more WAR... especially if its so close to home. 15k children killed!!! Israel's blood lust should have been satisfied by now.
If you think Israel is going to be safer after this, then once again you did not follow history. Killing children is not a solution to anything... it only fuels more war. Its a great way to create more hamas.
To be against this war and getting the hostages back is a duh...
I dont like mentioning pre oct 7 because its a waste of time and energy. We need to focus to get the hostages back and stop the war permanently. You can not kill more people and then act surprised if there are new terrorists. :bonk:
Quote (WhiteSouned @ 2 Jun 2024 04:30)
Which way do you suggest on dealing with terrorists ? How did the west dealt with ISIS ? This is practically the same thing.
Not getting into the numbers.
As
mentioned this is the EXACT playbook the United States military used after 9/11. Military jets that could've been scrambled within 5 minutes to down the hi-jacked planes were told "stand down" just like Israel "stood down" on 10/7 when they could've been there to reduce the casualties within a very short amount of time(Hamas was ALLOWED to kill indiscrimately for HOURS and gather hostages). This was done to gain "mass public support" so that we could start the "Forever wars". Terrorism is a concept not a people. Terrorism is not confined to boarders or countries. So you are right that the United States/Israel bombing campaigns created more terrorist then they killed(that was the point and it's undeniable). In the case of the United States we toppled multiple countries and stole their most valuable resources while installing "puppets" throughout the region and funding every terrorist group ever "created" planting the "seeds" so that we could always have an "excuse" to come back to the ME.
You need to stop believing in the rules of War as if any country is actually going to follow them and abide by UN laws and accords. Purely delusional if you believe that.
Also delusional if you think warfare is just about the "death count". It's about destroying moral so how do you do that? Kill your enemies "smartest/brightest/wealthiest" "Kill children/elderly" "blow up hospitals/schools".
When Madeline Albright said "500,000 dead Iraqi children" was "worth the price" do you think she was speaking on behalf of the "American people". Fuck no. Why do you think many Israel's feel the same way about what the IDF is doing in Gaza?
Let's be even more real. No one can stop a military from doing what it's PAID to do.
No amount of Palestinians "blocking busy streets" or the 10's of millions crying about it on social media does a fucking thing. This is a war! Do you think the IDF cares about their "public image" lmao? Come on man.
War is the most profitable business ever created and if you look at whose really "running the world" it's the central BANKERS/MILITARY/Political puppets and the "elite interest" they represent.
"We want a peace treaty! We want a ceasefire! We want x, y, and z!
Never ONCE have the central bankers, militaries, elite listened to the "plight of the people". It won't change now and not ever.
We are living in WW3 and the United States/Israel just like China/Russia are positioning themselves for a long term multi nation/multi front conflict.
How do people actually believe "peace" is possible when were all already at war with each other on multiple levels?