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Mar 20 2017 05:31pm
Quote (Voyaging @ 20 Mar 2017 19:13)
No, the "complete lack of rational thought" part makes them the dumbest.

The capitalizing every other word is what makes them the worst.



It's silly to claim voting for the winner is the correct decision. If Clinton had won (by the Electoral College) would you be saying the same thing about Clinton voters?

no, it isnt silly when the powers that be run nonsense (propaganda rather than facts) like this:







bold : thats the only way one wins the presidency. if Trump supporters were crying about the popular vote win with an electoral college defeat, the lefties and democrats would be screeching "haha dumbfuck drumpf loving hicks cant understand the Constitution they claim to love" instead of REEEEEEEE as they are now.

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no, it isnt silly when the powers that be run nonsense (propaganda rather than facts) like this:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvFrJEQXEAAJJ25.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/AW8wHaf.png

http://15130-presscdn-0-89.pagely.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/Screen-Shot-2016-08-10-at-7.42.08-PM-701x377.png

bold : thats the only way one wins the presidency. if Trump supporters were crying about the popular vote win with an electoral college defeat, the lefties and democrats would be screeching "haha dumbfuck drumpf loving hicks cant understand the Constitution they claim to love" instead of REEEEEEEE as they are now.


Comey and Rodgers confirmed today that Russia thought at some point during the election(like practically every person who values data) Trump was a lost cause, and then they wanted to damage Hillary as much as possible. Trump cultists naively believing their candidate would win(without any evidence) isn't intelligence or insight, it's just what dumb people do.

But hey, part of being an idiot is thinking you are smarter than practically every US political mind, including insanely smart intelligence officials in both the United States and Russia.
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Mar 20 2017 06:07pm
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Comey and Rodgers confirmed today that Russia thought at some point during the election(like practically every person who values data) Trump was a lost cause, and then they wanted to damage Hillary as much as possible. Trump cultists naively believing their candidate would win(without any evidence) isn't intelligence or insight, it's just what dumb people do.

But hey, part of being an idiot is thinking you are smarter than practically every US political mind, including insanely smart intelligence officials in both the United States and Russia.


does it make you feel better about being wrong by insulting those who were right?
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Mar 20 2017 06:12pm
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does it make you feel better about being wrong by insulting those who were right?


Nope, I admitted I was wrong about the election results, I just think it's contrary to reality that Trump supporters had superior intelligence or superior ability to evaluate data. They would've stuck with Trump if he was polling at 20% every state.
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Mar 20 2017 06:15pm
Quote (IceMage @ Mar 20 2017 05:45pm)
Comey and Rodgers confirmed today that Russia thought at some point during the election(like practically every person who values data) Trump was a lost cause, and then they wanted to damage Hillary as much as possible. Trump cultists naively believing their candidate would win(without any evidence) isn't intelligence or insight, it's just what dumb people do.

But hey, part of being an idiot is thinking you are smarter than practically every US political mind, including insanely smart intelligence officials in both the United States and Russia.


You can't really say they confirmed it, they just stated that like any reasonable person who values data, they almost certainly thought Trump was a lost cause
Its the same level of speculation that you and I engage in, the only way they could know otherwise is if they had direct insight into what Putin thought. Which, actually, they might have, given the spy program, but they aren't going to reveal either way.

The trump-russia narrative never held up to logical scrutiny and Comey hasn't officially squashed it, he's just put the bare minimum of criticism into the illogical motivations required by the conspiracy nuts
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Nope, I admitted I was wrong about the election results, I just think it's contrary to reality that Trump supporters had superior intelligence or superior ability to evaluate data. They would've stuck with Trump if he was polling at 20% every state.


which group had the superior intelligence then hillshills or bernouts?
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Mar 20 2017 06:21pm
Quote (IceMage @ 20 Mar 2017 19:45)
Comey and Rodgers confirmed today that Russia thought at some point during the election(like practically every person who values data) Trump was a lost cause, and then they wanted to damage Hillary as much as possible. Trump cultists naively believing their candidate would win(without any evidence) isn't intelligence or insight, it's just what dumb people do.

But hey, part of being an idiot is thinking you are smarter than practically every US political mind, including insanely smart intelligence officials in both the United States and Russia.

'Comey and Rodgers think that Russia thought that Trump was a lost cause' yeah that's incredibly critical thinking there.
you calling anyone an idiot is like Matt Ryan and (C)linton calling someone else a choke artist. Or Draymond and Grayson Allen calling someone else a thug who kicks too much. it's hypocritical, out of touch, and downright laughable.

Quote (majorblood @ 20 Mar 2017 20:07)
does it make you feel better about being wrong by insulting those who were right?

takes the sting off the shifts as a trash removal specalist at the abortion clinics he does each day - part of his conversion to full-on lefty democrat
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Mar 20 2017 06:29pm
Quote (excellence @ Mar 20 2017 06:31pm)
no, it isnt silly when the powers that be run nonsense (propaganda rather than facts) like this:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvFrJEQXEAAJJ25.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/AW8wHaf.png

http://15130-presscdn-0-89.pagely.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/Screen-Shot-2016-08-10-at-7.42.08-PM-701x377.png

bold : thats the only way one wins the presidency. if Trump supporters were crying about the popular vote win with an electoral college defeat, the lefties and democrats would be screeching "haha dumbfuck drumpf loving hicks cant understand the Constitution they claim to love" instead of REEEEEEEE as they are now.


Disregarding that nobody thought Trump was favored including Vegas because the data showing his support was unavailable, my point was that simply because you voted for the winner is not grounds to be proud. You should be proud of voting for the right candidate regardless of the outcome.

Though anything over like 80% Clinton was just flawed. It was like 65/35 to 75/25.

And I would've criticized the electoral college even if Trump won the popular vote but lost the college, as I was long before the election.

This post was edited by Voyaging on Mar 20 2017 06:30pm
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You should be proud of voting for the right candidate regardless of the outcome.


And pragmatists shouldn't be proud of voting for candidates who have a better chance of winning but don't reflect their worldview as much as 3rd parties with no chance?
No politician you are ever going to get to vote for is going to be perfect, is it a point of pride to throw away a vote instead of accepting a more realistic compromise?
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