Another null, zero, contribution, please do not quote me with this kind of shit.

It is clear that Israel has backed Hamas out of self-interest, just as the US has backed terrorist organizations (jihadist groups) in other areas in order to further its political objectives.

no they didnt

extreme antisemitism aka "from the river to the sea" or holocaust 2.0 is the mainstream there, what is there to back?

israel defends against their full destruction since day 1

i quote your uneducated, caveman sympathiser shit from your frenchie migrant sinkhole whenever i want

Like I said you are just a SJW by social media but in reality you are a racist Scott.

You won't take a Palestinian family into your home.

You never shed a tear for any of these dead children.

Your more interested with arguing semantics with people in this thread and flip-flopping whenever you see fit then providing even a single solution.

People like you want to help but are too lazy and that's why you post here. 1st world privilege at it's finest.





Ok bud then let's look at causal reality in case you forgot this is what happened.

1) Hamas murders innocent Isareli citizens at a concert and takes HUNDREDS of hostages while killing over a THOUSAND indiscrimately in brutal fashion
2) Israel responds accordingly.

You can cry about it all you want but you can't change the human condition itself. So all the whining and bitching about Israel being evil thugs falls on deaf ears considering it was "evil thugs" who started it.

Rule 101 of warfare
1) Don't start a WAR you can't FINISH.
2) The heaviest burden is paid by the children and mothers(ALWAYS). Death is easy(mostly men die in war/conflict) and in the case of Hamas they will be eviscerated and the COWARDS who started it and caused the problem will be DEAD and their wives, children, and elderly will be left to face hell on Earth(That's why they have no problem using them as human shields). Quick death is better then being starved to death slowly.

This truly is the most ineffectual "genocide" ever. And the Palestinians were evidently cheering the Hamas fighters when they returned to Gaza with literal blood on their hands and hostages in tow, so it's clear that most of them support the savagery. Polls, to the extent they're available, confirm this. I just disagree with this argument that "you get what you vote for" since it doesn't apply here.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Jun 1 2024 07:32pm

I’m not blaming anyone in particular. I blame them all as a nation that puts the destruction of Israel above all other goal. It’s not like the Palestinians invented anything new, there were regimes like those in the past which eventually failed.
They need to change their priority.

This post was edited by WhiteSouned on Jun 1 2024 09:29pm

Israel count it closer to 50/50 by their reporting in May. Early this month Israel government gave count of 14,000 dead Hamas terrorists and a record low 16,000 dead civilians in Gaza. They are killing more civilians than terrorists by their own counts. This was information released to contradict the allegedly bias numbers being reported out of Gaza.

This post was edited by RedFromWinter on Jun 1 2024 10:00pm

I’m not disputing the numbers.
My claims are in the wider perspective.
The Palestinians, before Hamas , with Hamas and in the West Bank where Hamas is not in charge, do not accept the results of 1948 and are preserving their refugee status and are formed as a nation for the sole purpose of the destruction of Israel.
As to 7/10 results thus far.. you are correct.

I said this:
"Most of us are not directly impacted by this "war" but we are still humans and feel empathy for people who have been wronged. Doesnt matter if they are jews or arabs."
So no i did not forget anything.


If you like lists then here you go

1) If you think you can get rid of hamas then you did not follow history.
2) I am not into whataboutism at all but seems like you are. So thats for you: "whining and bitching" about oct 7 wont help. This happens if a population is being suppressed. Poor little innocent Israel. am i right?
3) Destroying schools, universities, hospitals etc is not a war against hamas.

My point is WAR will bring more WAR... especially if its so close to home. 15k children killed!!! Israel's blood lust should have been satisfied by now.

If you think Israel is going to be safer after this, then once again you did not follow history. Killing children is not a solution to anything... it only fuels more war. Its a great way to create more hamas.

To be against this war and getting the hostages back is a duh...

I dont like mentioning pre oct 7 because its a waste of time and energy. We need to focus to get the hostages back and stop the war permanently. You can not kill more people and then act surprised if there are new terrorists.

Which way do you suggest on dealing with terrorists ? How did the west dealt with ISIS ? This is practically the same thing.
Not getting into the numbers.

Oppsy poopsy, wrong one

This post was edited by RedFromWinter on Jun 2 2024 05:30am