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May 22 2024 11:34am
Quote (John_Wayne_Gacy @ May 22 2024 06:15pm)
Belgium didn't have a government for over 600 days. It didn't stop being a federal state in the meantime.

Rabin was part of the Oslo Accords iirc. Granted Netanyahu is no Rabin, but still. It's not inconceivable that agreements could be reached.


Belgium is an established and stable constitutional democracy.

It's not a useful comparison.

It's not inconcievable, it's literally impossible with the current leader of Israel and lack of a leader of what is allegedly the state of Palestine.
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Quote (John_Wayne_Gacy @ May 22 2024 07:15pm)
Belgium didn't have a government for over 600 days. It didn't stop being a federal state in the meantime.

Rabin was part of the Oslo Accords iirc. Granted Netanyahu is no Rabin, but still. It's not inconceivable that agreements could be reached.


Rabin assassination was terrible, with the Likud and all this mess of nazionalists+"conservatives"(bigots) religious behind it.
This is a terrible situation and a complete embarassement for the whole free world. Seems the next generation of americans is about to be agree in stopping this shameful assistance.

U.S wanted a disposable proxy while shitting on Europeans (due geographiocal proximity) ? They are about to get a shot in the foot instead. Jesus what a mess. Half of Europeans are getting it.

Then like 25% of far right ignorants remaining are still supporting Israel here, sure thing is they are non longer a majority.

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Quote (Meanwhile @ May 22 2024 07:28pm)
Rabin assassination was terrible, with the Likud and all this mess of nazionalists+"conservatives"(bigots) religious behind it.
This is a terrible situation and a complete embarassement for the whole free world. Seems the next generation of americans is about to be agree in stopping this shameful assistance.

U.S wanted a disposable proxy while shitting on Europeans (due geographiocal proximity) ? They are about to get a shot in the foot instead. Jesus what a mess. Half of Europeans are getting it.

Then like 25% of far right ignorants remaining are still supporting Israel here, sure thing is they are non longer a majority.


A majority of Europeans are against medieval terrorists and they support Israels right to exist.

Don't kid yourself

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Quote (Prox1m1ty @ May 22 2024 08:55pm)
A majority of Europeans are against medieval terrorists and they support Israels right to exist.

Don't kid yourself


Not my problem if your opinion only represent a minority today. Please provide some arguments that Israel did not fulled Hamas for decades, because it did.
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Quote (Meanwhile @ May 22 2024 08:02pm)
Not my problem if your opinion only represent a minority today. Please provide some arguments that Israel did not fulled Hamas for decades, because it did.


You are the minority. Don't kid yourself otherwise.
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Quote (WhiteSouned @ 21 May 2024 20:52)
I’m not surprised at all.
I’m surprised that my country didn’t do anything nor they knew about the scale of those smuggling.
Hey, the tragedy of Gaza Strip is exactly what you described. They should be able to have an open border policy with Egypt while being monitored for in-out firearms. What I don’t understand is why you, and correct me if I’m wrong here, put the blame on Israel ? Not speaking about 10/7 consequences. In general. They are supported and funded by million of dollars. Wouldn’t it be better for the Gazans to develop their civil infrastructure, welfare rather than armed “resistance” ?
They can use what they have and get for good purposes and I’m more than sure Israel will be happy to allow open borders in a generation or two.


You asked me why I blame israel for the most part? The graph below will explain.

Lol did peaceful resistance help? Do you know what happened during 2018-19 peaceful protests? If not look it up but the graph will give you an idea. Thats literally suppressing people.



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western liberal governments are so funny, they think they advocate for palestinians with the two state solution nonsense when palestinians THEMSELVES overwhelmingly want a palestine from the river to the sea

delusional morons
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Quote (JohnnyMcCoy @ 23 May 2024 11:29)
western liberal governments are so funny, they think they advocate for palestinians with the two state solution nonsense when palestinians THEMSELVES overwhelmingly want a palestine from the river to the sea

delusional morons


Yeahhhh all these delusional morons wanting the 1967 border to actually apply. Wanting the killing to end. That's absolutely stupid. I agree.
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Quote (FantasyWorldII @ May 23 2024 02:24am)
You asked me why I blame israel for the most part? The graph below will explain.

Lol did peaceful resistance help? Do you know what happened during 2018-19 peaceful protests? If not look it up but the graph will give you an idea. Thats literally suppressing people.

https://cdn.statcdn.com/Infographic/images/normal/16516.jpeg


And? Palestians have got much higher birth rate

Source: https://www.macrotrends.net/global-metrics/countries/HRV/palestine/population-growth-rate

You can't do any military operation in a densely population area without casualties. Gaza is extremely densely populated. Why am I posting that graph? Because if Israel's aim was genocide (the word is being used inflationary) Gaza's population would be reduced in numbers. As you see, that's not the case at all. Furthermore, as soon as the international community and Israel itself stops the aid to Gaza, that population wouldn't be able sustain itself at all. They hardly produce anything. You want them to create their own state? Fine, who is supposed to finance that?

As far as Hamas and Netanjahu go, they are both criminals using the "wars" to stay in power. I condemn that "military operation" by Israel just as much as supposedly pro Palestinian Hamas. None of them solve any issues.

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Quote (John_Wayne_Gacy @ May 22 2024 08:15pm)
Belgium didn't have a government for over 600 days. It didn't stop being a federal state in the meantime.

Rabin was part of the Oslo Accords iirc. Granted Netanyahu is no Rabin, but still. It's not inconceivable that agreements could be reached.


Oslo accords ended without a concession on borders from the exact reason we are not able to achieve peace now - the Palestinians refusal to accept the Jewish state. Arafat couldn’t abandon the claim for “the right to return”.
Show me a Palestinian gov that can say the following and there will
Be a peace tomorrow “we acknowledge Israel’s existence, we would like to have our country in X borders and so we understand it means the end of our refugee status and dropping our claim for the right to return.”
You won’t find more than 5 Palestinians who are able to say that publicly. All those discussion about returning to 67 borders are a mislead of the west and the west is eating it.
The conception says the following - grant them employment, financial stability and they won’t choose terror over their wellbeing. This conception is fundamentally wrong.

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