What would your solution be?

Better ask, what is the goal of recognizing Palestine and will it lead to a lasting peace?

Considering Palestine doesn't even have definable borders or a functioning representative government and harbours extremist terrorists who's manifesto includes eradication of 10million Israelis.

This post was edited by Prox1m1ty on May 22 2024 03:59am

The eventual goal of recognizing Palestine would indeed be lasting peace.

What would your alternative be?

Define Palestines borders?

Starting from the Oslo accords would seem like a decent basis for negotations.
Obviously I'm not an expert and there might be better starting points.


Do you have an alternative solution to the conflict, other than the two state option?

Spain, Ireland and Norway should have to define who the government of "Palestine" is, too

If there is no good alternative solution, does that mean a two state solution is by default a potential solution?

I'm not seeing any evidence that recognizing an undefinable state is somehow part of any solution.

I don't see there is a simple or obvious solution while both "sides" have factions that want to annihilate the others

This post was edited by Prox1m1ty on May 22 2024 05:26am

Not necessarily. A state can have no government and still be considered a state. Elections could be had in the area.

None of it would be easy though.



Well, recognizing a Palestinian state would probably help define those very borders you're rightfully concerned about.

And I think that yes, working towards a peaceful solution (however tenuous) is probably better than doing nothing.

No that isn't how statehood works. You can't run before you can walk right?

At least in this case where the balance of power is asymmetrical in Israel's favour, there needs to be defined and recognized (By Israel) borders, that can constitute a state.
Ireland recognizing a state (without borders) is irrelevant unless Israel recognize the borders.

Or more critically, there is a Palestinian "government" that defines its own borders.
Talking about all of the West bank becoming Palestine, is ridiculous at this point.

This is the most pedantic venture I've ever heard of, on Norway, Spain and Irelands part.

This post was edited by Prox1m1ty on May 22 2024 11:11am

Belgium didn't have a government for over 600 days. It didn't stop being a federal state in the meantime.

Rabin was part of the Oslo Accords iirc. Granted Netanyahu is no Rabin, but still. It's not inconceivable that agreements could be reached.