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May 21 2024 12:18am
Quote (WhiteSouned @ 21 May 2024 15:46)
I disagree with any of your definitions.
Since Gaza clearly declared its hostility towards Israel, it’s only natural that Gaza will be monitored.
Here’s your terminology “.. Also the rafah crossing is controlled by Egypt with the coordination of Israel”, it seems what’s bothering you is the “coordination with Israel” part. Why ? if a person wants to cross the border to Egypt, Israel is not preventing that. So basically your claim is to drop all monitoring actions towards a hostile neighbour and to let them bring in all the military equipment that they like. I mean, Russia went to war with Ukraine over that.. Israel is not making anything up. No reasonable country in the world will have an open border policy with hostile neighbour lol.
The Egyptians are pissing all over the Egypt-Israel peace agreement anyways so what exactly is the “coordination” with Israel ? Gaza has a border with a friendly state, they are not occupied.


sure use whatever definition you want. Yes egypt and israel coordinate together what goes in and out through rafah. Israel has significant influence over egypt's border with gaza. And the rest is controlled by israel.

Furthermore, denying Gaza's humanitarian crisis and debating definitions won't solve it. Israeli control severely impacts daily life there while Egypts involvement doesnt change the fundamental issue: gaza's isolation and suffering. Gaza needs solutions not justifications for its struggles.

15k kids have been killed already. It is a known fact that israel cant kill all hamas members. Its just not realistic. There are over 2mil people in gaza and by israels own estimate there is about 20-30k hamas members.

You dont do peace with your friends. You do it with your enemies. If you block people from getting anything in and out, control their borders, control their airspace and maritime you should not be surprised if they smuggle weapons to do an armed resistance... That's just common sense.
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May 21 2024 03:40am
Quote (Goomshill @ May 21 2024 03:42am)
The USA has already passed a law in 2002 giving the President of the United States the power and responsibility to use any necessary military force to release any US or allied personnel held by or at the request of the ICC.
It also prohibits any US government entity from assisting the ICC, prevents the ICC from operating on US soil and prohibits US military aid to countries party to the ICC unless they agree to refuse to extradite any US personnel to the ICC or assist investigations of the ICC into US personnel
Clearly, this act wasn't expansive enough, and should be amended to prevent the ICC from trying to wage war against our allies, because that's what trying to seize the head of a sovereign nation is.


U.S are just isolating themselves assisting these criminals , they did it for decades in the Front of U.N anyway, another humiliating situation.

ICC == 124 countries.



Barbaric savages don't worth more than terrorists. And U.S are just making themselves ugly by assisting them.
Answer is always the same here: when proven wrong they are saying "butt we are a powerfull military"

This is a buff for american students looool
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sure use whatever definition you want. Yes egypt and israel coordinate together what goes in and out through rafah. Israel has significant influence over egypt's border with gaza. And the rest is controlled by israel.

Furthermore, denying Gaza's humanitarian crisis and debating definitions won't solve it. Israeli control severely impacts daily life there while Egypts involvement doesnt change the fundamental issue: gaza's isolation and suffering. Gaza needs solutions not justifications for its struggles.

15k kids have been killed already. It is a known fact that israel cant kill all hamas members. Its just not realistic. There are over 2mil people in gaza and by israels own estimate there is about 20-30k hamas members.

You dont do peace with your friends. You do it with your enemies. If you block people from getting anything in and out, control their borders, control their airspace and maritime you should not be surprised if they smuggle weapons to do an armed resistance... That's just common sense.


I’m not surprised at all.
I’m surprised that my country didn’t do anything nor they knew about the scale of those smuggling.
Hey, the tragedy of Gaza Strip is exactly what you described. They should be able to have an open border policy with Egypt while being monitored for in-out firearms. What I don’t understand is why you, and correct me if I’m wrong here, put the blame on Israel ? Not speaking about 10/7 consequences. In general. They are supported and funded by million of dollars. Wouldn’t it be better for the Gazans to develop their civil infrastructure, welfare rather than armed “resistance” ?
They can use what they have and get for good purposes and I’m more than sure Israel will be happy to allow open borders in a generation or two.
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May 21 2024 12:02pm
Lol, fuckers got caught.

Furthermore, it seems that the creation of "humanitarian corridors" loudly relayed in the American media were completely insufficient. In the same order of reprehensible attitudes: Members of the Israeli army who gave "tips" to armed groups so that they would attack humanitarian convoys... It's crazy.

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May 21 2024 08:40pm
https://www.jns.org/nearly-70-of-gaza-aid-from-us-built-pier-stolen/

The US attempted to finally start delivering aid from the $320 million pier Joe Biden ordered built off the coast so we could say 'no boots on the ground'
The first step was to deliver it to a UN warehouse with hired truckers. Over 70% of the shipment was intercepted and looted by the crowds, without any security to ward them off.
The US then paused attempts to deliver aid over the next few days
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May 22 2024 01:28am
Quote (Meanwhile @ May 21 2024 07:02pm)
Lol, fuckers got caught.

Furthermore, it seems that the creation of "humanitarian corridors" loudly relayed in the American media were completely insufficient. In the same order of reprehensible attitudes: Members of the Israeli army who gave "tips" to armed groups so that they would attack humanitarian convoys... It's crazy.

https://i.ibb.co/ctP3WQ7/image.png


Egypt could take refugees. Or Jordan. How many did they take so far?
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May 22 2024 01:44am
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Egypt could take refugees. Or Jordan. How many did they take so far?


The Ethnic Sate, which gov is actually examinated by the same entity created following the dramatic WW2 war, is pushing "refugees" (Palestinians for me) out for this for sure.

Far right Israeli gov 100% expected to steal the last lands if the "refugees" (Palestinians for me) are gone.

Exemple:

UK funds Scottish terrorists, then bombs Scotlands to death, cut humanitarian corridors, then says "Buuttt Butttt Why don't they flee to Irland ?" and "Why Ireland is not willing to accept them (millions people) ?"

Thank you so much.

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May 22 2024 01:48am
Quote (Meanwhile @ May 22 2024 08:44am)
The Ethnic Sate, which gov is actually examinated by the same entity created following the dramatic WW2 war, is pushing "refugees" (Palestinians for me) out for this for sure.

Far right Israeli gov 100% expected to steal the last lands if the "refugees" (Palestinians for me) are gone.

Exemple:

UK funds Scottish terrorists, then bombs Scotlands to death, cut humanitarian corridors, then says "Buuttt Butttt Why don't they flee to Irland ?" and "Why Ireland is not willing to accept them (millions people) ?"

Thank you so much.


How many did they take?

You always avoid the difficult questions while waving the flag.

This post was edited by Prox1m1ty on May 22 2024 01:48am
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May 22 2024 02:08am
https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-69047220

I feel like it's a step in the right direction.
Obviously there would still be considerable effort to be invested in peace even if a two state solution is found.
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May 22 2024 03:12am
Quote (John_Wayne_Gacy @ May 22 2024 09:08am)
https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-69047220

I feel like it's a step in the right direction.
Obviously there would still be considerable effort to be invested in peace even if a two state solution is found.


Palestine is an utter mess, hard to take this seriously and anything other than virtue signalling by countries that have nothing to lose.
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