The last time a neighboring country (Jordan) took in a sizable number of Palestinian refugees, they began bullying and extorting the local population, used it as a launching pad for endless raids on Israel, started a civil war, tried to coup away the Jordanian king and later even attempted to assassinate him. When they were losing the civil war against Jordan's military, they took an airplane hostage and used the international pressure to blackmail Jordan's government into a temporary ceasefire. (Does this playbook sound familiar? )

Jordan barely came out on top in the end and expelled most of them. Likewise, local Palestinians played a malicious role in Saddam's invasion of Kuwait in 1990/91 and were subsequently kicked out.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_September
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_exodus_from_Kuwait_(1990%E2%80%9391)

And with regard to Egypt, let's not forget what happened there the last time free elections took place: a majority of the Egyptian people elected the Muslim Brotherhood (islamists, allied with and ideological mentors to Hamas) into power, which immediately began dismantling the country's institutions and democracy. A military coup was barely able to stop them before it was too late and restored the status quo ante. So now, Egypt is yet again stuck with a shitty, brutal, oppressive military dictatorship... and it's still the lesser of two evils. Anyway, the point is that the current rulers of Egypt know very well that they're sitting on a powder keg and would be well-advised to avoid any kind of revolutionary spark.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on May 13 2024 08:14pm

I want to say something which kinda scares myself but that's human behavior:

If I was born in Gaza, I most likely would have supported hamas too. The reason is simple:

- Never ending occupation
- Cant leave gaza
- No real future
- Non-violent protests does not help

In such never ending misery, I'd support any group that stands for MY and my families rights.


All that being said, I love the jews. I have many jewish friends and I hate seeing hamas killing all these innocent poor people. But my love is both ways. Israelis are the same as Palestinians... These are not numbers, these are lives. To me this conflict has literally nothing to do with religion but everything to do with the military occupation.


I would love if others could do the same: Imagine you are born in Gaza. What would you do? How do you react? Would you support hamas?

Which part exactly is occupied ?

All of the border crossings, for starters.

Gaza is like an open air prison

Define Israel’s borders as you understand it please. So I’ll know which parts are occupied, to your method.



How so ? They have a border with Egypt. I think Hamas just referred to them as their “brothers”.
Do you agree that Gaza is hostile to Israel ? Do you agree that no normal country will let hostile personal into its borders ?

This post was edited by WhiteSouned on May 20 2024 05:16am

EXCLUSIVE: ICC seeks arrest warrants against Sinwar and Netanyahu for war crimes over October 7 attack and Gaza war

The International Criminal Court is seeking arrest warrants for Hamas leader Yahya Sinwar and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on charges of war crimes and crimes against humanity over the October 7 attacks on Israel and the subsequent war in Gaza, the court’s chief prosecutor Karim Khan told CNN’s Christiane Amanpour in an exclusive interview on Monday.

Khan said the ICC is also seeking warrants for Israel’s Defense Minister Yoav Gallant, as well as two other top Hamas leaders — Mohammed Diab Ibrahim al-Masri, the leader of the Al Qassem Brigades and better known as Mohammed Deif, and Ismail Haniyeh, Hamas’ political leader.

Source: CNN

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/05/20/middleeast/icc-israel-hamas-arrest-warrant-war-crimes-intl/index.html

This post was edited by Norlander on May 20 2024 05:48am