She is right. There is this whole movement where people act like they care about other peoples' health as a way to degrade others without actually doing so overtly. A skinny person wouldn't be asked that question, even though they could have high blood pressure, HIV, or other things that are indicative of poor health. He wouldn't have asked my really skinny and attractive buddy if his doctor said he was healthy, and he is developing COPD at 42.

The "does the doctor say are you healthy" is another way of calling somebody an ugly fat ass lol. Except people get to lie to themselves as they're making themselves feel better. It is dishonest schadenfreude. At least have the integrity to own it instead of pretending to care about a fake health crisis.

If every girl looked like a prepubescent boy then there wouldn't be threads like this. Look at what was beautiful and healthy during the Renaissance. Health is a cultural concept not some objective thing.

The implication that a person should feel bad about themselves if they don't fit into certain culturally derived measurements is fucking laughable.

This post was edited by Skinned on May 19 2016 08:13am

this thread keeps going in big fat circles

U know sometimes I just think about it... Like there are people out there weighing 300 lbs. And I'm not talking 6'6 bodybuilder guys packing a ton of muscle. I'm talking 5'0 women with just pure fat. To lose weight these people don't even have to exercise. They don't even have to follow some tedious diet. All they have to do is eat normal portions. That's it. Like, shit son, to even maintain that weight your body needs SO many calories. If they just ate 2500 calories a day as recommended they'd lose weight SO fast.

If you're obese you're at higher risk of high blood pressure, heart disease etc than a person in a healthy weight range, to the extent that it is fair to make assumptions about their health and lifestyle.

But those assumptions are made to enjoy their perceived bad health by making oneself feel better relative to them.

Not the prejudice is so bad that they're being blamed for the high cost of capitalist health care, which is completely idiotic. But they're getting scapegoated for it.

You can have any trait of metabolic syndrome, what you speak of, as a skinny person as well. Nobody is asking people about confidential medical information because they're genuinely worried about their health.

Schadenfreude pure and simple, and what is worse, they're now being scapegoated for horrible capitalist health care.

Also, plenty of women have curves and don't have metabolic syndrome.

This post was edited by Skinned on May 19 2016 08:26am

Yeah I agree that the motivation for making those assumptions are not done out of a genuine desire to help them. But that doesn't change the reality of those assumptions being true.

Obese people are a burden on socialist healthcare systems too, like the NHS. They are being scapegoated too though.

this is the lifestyle you are defending


so inspirational, let's not say anything to hurt her feelings or obstruct her access to food

Challenge - Find a male in any of those pictures

Nope.

It's very simple. If you are obese, it is of your own causing 99.9%.

Obesity is caused by overeating as part of lifestyle.

Energy in and energy out is science.

Honestly the fat is okay crowd or "i can't lose weight" crowd are similar to people who deny humans are responsible for increasing temperatures and climate change.

They keep moving goalposts and trying to shift the narrative even though all the evidence is there there they are dead wrong.

The only thing currently on a wide scale that can even compare to the level of lifestyle destruction that is overeating is drug addiction and alcoholism.

Obesity puts you at a greater risk for heart problems, blood pressure problems , depression , bones/muscles/joints problems and pretty much almost everything associated with health.

This post was edited by sir_lance_bb on May 19 2016 11:39am

Disagree with the bold. In the past 3 decades empirical standards have been identified in regards to individual health. Standards that are in large agreed upon by a number of different global medical societies. There may be room for debate, like endocrine society saying your alc should be under 5.8 and family med saying 6.0, but many of these standards proposed have been linked with improved outcomes.