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Feb 14 2023 10:35pm
Quote (Ghot @ Feb 14 2023 08:20pm)
Thanks... but I'll be fine. I'm not a lefty. LOL


lol ouch :)
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Feb 15 2023 12:15am
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Apparently, an axle failure caused the derailment.
So... the brakes had nothing to do with it.
Next topic please. Thank you.
Same shyt, different day....
https://i.imgur.com/hLhfvy8.png
Btw... I live 40-50 miles southeast of the derailment... right where the jet stream is gonna blow all that stuff.
If I can deal with it... you whiners ought to be able to handle it. :/
But you don't really care about the accident... all you care about is that there's an election in 1.6 years. Disgusting people.
Lefty Joe Friday: Nuthin' but no facts, ma'am.


Don't forget to eat. I know that must be hard with your level of cognition.

Glad to see you're fine with taking brakes off of cars as long as the axles are functional.
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Feb 15 2023 02:35am
Quote (Ghot @ 15 Feb 2023 04:40)
Oh look. Many things can cause a derailment.
Would the electronic brakes have helped? Probably not. Once the train derails the brakes don't do a damn thing. LOL


so just to be clear, you personally agree that trains with hazardous / flammable cargo should NOT be designated as such, and NOT be fitted with modern safety features that demonstrably lower the risk of derailment, other accidents, and the mitigate the potential damage in case of such an event?

in short, "this is fine" with you? companies cutting corners and endangering public safety to enrich their CEOs, privatising wins and socialising risks and losses is what you're all about - not because you benefit from it personally, or support it ideologically, but simply because tucker and friends tell you to. xD

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Feb 15 2023 04:34am
Would ECP brakes have reduced the severity of this accident? Yes

It reminds me the guns situation: this "debate" is a fail because these people will only be accept the truth when the carcinogen train will pop up right onto their face.

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Feb 15 2023 06:57am
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so just to be clear, you personally agree that trains with hazardous / flammable cargo should NOT be designated as such, and NOT be fitted with modern safety features that demonstrably lower the risk of derailment, other accidents, and the mitigate the potential damage in case of such an event?

in short, "this is fine" with you? companies cutting corners and endangering public safety to enrich their CEOs, privatising wins and socialising risks and losses is what you're all about - not because you benefit from it personally, or support it ideologically, but simply because tucker and friends tell you to. xD


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Would ECP brakes have reduced the severity of this accident? Yes

It reminds me the guns situation: this "debate" is a fail because these people will only be accept the truth when the carcinogen train will pop up right onto their face.





There's no proof that ECP brakes ARE that much better... on trains. The experts have been arguing about that for 8 years now.
Ofc I understand how YOU train experts might feel differently. LMFAO

There's also the fact that an axle failure caused the derailment... NOT the brakes.

But let's not let that slow you down in your orange man bad... mission. LOL

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Feb 15 2023 07:10am
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There's no proof that ECP brakes ARE that much better... on trains. The experts have been arguing about that for 8 years now.
Ofc I understand how YOU train experts might feel differently. LMFAO

There's also the fact that an axle failure caused the derailment... NOT the brakes.

But let's not let that slow you down in your orange man bad... mission. LOL


Would ECP brakes have reduced the severity of this accident? Yes

Yet it clearly establish a link in-between your support of Donald Trump in 2016 and the children that may get brain cancer due hazardous chemicals in the future years.

The reasons why PVC is so harmful can be summed up by two words: chlorine and dioxin.
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Feb 15 2023 07:42am
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Would ECP brakes have reduced the severity of this accident? Yes

The reasons why PVC is so harmful can be summed up by two words: chlorine and dioxin.



NO, ECP brakes would have made no difference. Once a train derails, there's nothing for the brakes to work... on.

Yes, I took Inorganic Chemistry in college. Again you're skipping over the point. ECP brakes would NOT have helped at all, so the rest of your conjecture is fallacious.

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Feb 15 2023 07:46am
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NO, ECP brakes would have made no difference. Once a train derails, there's nothing for the brakes to work... on.

Yes, I took Inorganic Chemistry in college. Again you're skipping over the point. ECP brakes would NOT have helped at all, so the rest of your conjecture is fallacious.


How do you know that the "accordion effect" created by standard air brakes on trains didn't cause the axle failure?
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NO, ECP brakes would have made no difference. Once a train derails, there's nothing for the brakes to work... on.

Yes, I took Inorganic Chemistry in college. Again you're skipping over the point. ECP brakes would NOT have helped at all, so the rest of your conjecture is fallacious.



Electronically Controlled Pneumatic brakes, or ECP brakes, can decrease train stopping distances and could have prevented the derailment last week, according to The Lever. Norfolk spent years lobbying against the use of these brakes, and the Ohio train was not outfitted with the technology.

https://www.levernews.com/rail-companies-blocked-safety-rules-before-ohio-derailment/

“Trains are like giant Slinkies. When you have that back of the train running into the front of the train, they can actually push cars out, cause a derailment and cause a hell of a mess.”

==> This is what could have been prevented and so on: lowering the accident damages. In other words: slowering and minimize the derailment damages.





If the picture below is true the town should be evacuated immediately (i guess it's a fake)



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