Quote (thesnipa @ 21 Nov 2022 15:10)

i would kill all adults in the vatican to save all of the children in the vatican from the adults in the vatican.

Quote (mki @ Nov 21 2022 03:14pm)

Isn't the Vatican like the gay orgy capital of the planet?

Quote (fender @ Nov 21 2022 03:10pm)

so you'd kill 100 nineteen year olds over 20 twelve year olds?

i'm just glad that no one actually has such buttons. again, it wasn't an either-or choice, the guy seems to have a specific target group. this act of terrorism won't save any school from the inevitable next shooting, that's not how this works as i'm sure you know...

Quote (thesnipa @ Nov 21 2022 11:16pm)

i built that into my joking reply.



no, i said i MIGHT go as high as 5:1. that would be like 5 elderly to 1 elementary school child, but honestly 5 is probably too low in that extreme. i'd rather see a whole nursing home in ashes than a 2nd grader dead by gunfire.

Quote (ownyaah @ Nov 21 2022 03:18pm)

100 or even 1000 elderly aren't worth 1 elementary child. Anyone who says otherwise is anti-evolutionary and pretty morally-questionable.

Quote (thesnipa @ Nov 21 2022 08:40pm)

if you start from the position that a vaccine must eradicate a disease to be worthwhile i understand why you think what you do.

would love to see data on vaccinated dying twice as often as nonvaxxed tho.

Quote (mki @ Nov 21 2022 08:42pm)

It was a computer model done by some of the most intelligent scientists and doctors on the planet. The model was with zero mitigation efforts at all. It was not a vaccine effectiveness model. I just want to be clear about that because what I said previously was a little bit vague. So that's 50 million estimated deaths with no social distancing, masks, vaccines, or anything else the world did to try to mitigate the spread.

The actual deaths are probably closer to 10 million as there are billions of people who are living in countries that do not keep accurate records of their populations. This should be apparent after the satellite photos of the mass corpse burn pits that were observed in countries like India.

Also, if you're not a doctor, it's not reasonable for you to evaluate a person's cause of death. That cancer patient could have potentially recovered from cancer had they not gotten covid-19. More and more people do successfully survive cancer due to modern medicine these days.

Quote (thesnipa @ Nov 21 2022 11:20pm)

what if that 1 elementary child is Hitler?

Quote (Melatonina @ Nov 21 2022 03:24pm)

I already posted in another thread.
https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=98267964&f=119&p=633048508#p633048508

If you prefer we can start from others aspects of the vaccine which is by the way the perfect opposite of the last 2+ years narrative :

not spreading the virus : doesn't do shit
preventing complications : maybe on first variant. clearly not for everything else that came after which is the majority of circulating covid nowadays
preventing death : nope
myocardites : check
thrombosis : check
heart failures : check
menstruations disorders : check
banned in at least 1 country : check (astrazeneca)
you die, but you go to heaven : still have yet to be proven

Quote (ownyaah @ Nov 21 2022 03:25pm)

I always thought people who point fingers at Hitler are silly. Hitler didn't kill 6 million Jews, the German people did. To dissolve them of these crimes by putting it on the shoulders of 1 man is silly.

Example 2: Bush didn't kill 1million Iraqis, the American people did.

You can go back in history to most conflicts/massacres where people point at X or Y, when in reality it was a VERY collective act.

Quote (thesnipa @ Nov 21 2022 11:27pm)

i find it funny that you say u cant blame hitler, but at the same time you're blaming 300+ million people for the actions of what? 10-20k soldiers?

shockingly ive never been to iraq.

Quote (thesnipa @ Nov 21 2022 09:26pm)

TBH im just not going to go any further, its not worth my time and u can argue with at least a dozen others.