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Nov 16 2022 04:18pm
Quote (Pisior @ 16 Nov 2022 22:24)
99.9% of us ( and me ) know nothing about this war. we just talk about that media tell us ... problem is media are not free...


More like you.
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Nov 16 2022 04:18pm
Quote (Ognadibik @ Nov 16 2022 05:00pm)
There are literal live feeds / videos about the events, not only posted by news agencies but the ppl actually fightning, full of accurate information
Sure there are ppl like goomshill with serious gaps in history knowledge who deliberately consume media only from one side, but that doesnt mean most of us know nothing, thats just stupid to say.


You just described most of the world population on any topics.

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Nov 16 2022 04:20pm
Quote (Meanwhile @ Nov 16 2022 05:18pm)
More like you.


You're 100% what he describe. You never went outside your home. You live to magic find Manu and your life is either magic finding or watching the news that agree with your way of thinking. Anyone with more than two braincells can see you support Shang Tsung but hate Trump because the TV made you that way. Heck you ain't even american and feel the need to spam from the moment u wake up to the moment u go to bed daily.

Life is unfair in a sense that you're still alive wasting your life away daily while some kids die of cancer and will never have a chance to experience life.

11pm+ where you live and still 4-5 more hours of you watching jews news and repeating the shit you've watched to the handful of people who like you, will be on PaRD in 5-10 years from now arguing with kids half your age.

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Nov 16 2022 04:44pm
Quote (Santara @ Nov 16 2022 11:59pm)
Calls people low-info.
Intentionally leaves out important information. Here's what you left off:



Dishonest as fuck.


"intentionally leaves out"

your quote occurs TWO MONTHS AFTER USA+THE WEST COLLAPSED THE PEACE DEAL WORKED OUT BY BOTH SIDES DUMBFUCK :rofl:
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Nov 16 2022 04:58pm
Quote (Ognadibik @ Nov 16 2022 03:19pm)
Russias loss means one less dictatorship that is threateing world peace


So the democracy wants to stoke a war in order to stop a dictatorship from threatening the peace?
Again, Russia's record of warmongering is a drop in the bucket compared to ours. And here we are, trying to fan the flames in Ukraine

Quote (HeLiCaL @ Nov 16 2022 04:44pm)
"intentionally leaves out"

your quote occurs TWO MONTHS AFTER USA+THE WEST COLLAPSED THE PEACE DEAL WORKED OUT BY BOTH SIDES DUMBFUCK :rofl:


The US has been stubbornly pursuing the goal of worsening the conflict at every step without being willing to commit our own direct force. Not just sabotaging the peace deals, we keep the escalations going every opportunity we get. Its a straight replay of the plan in Syria, and look how well that worked out for us.
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Nov 16 2022 04:58pm
Quote (HeLiCaL @ Nov 16 2022 04:44pm)
"intentionally leaves out"

your quote occurs TWO MONTHS AFTER USA+THE WEST COLLAPSED THE PEACE DEAL WORKED OUT BY BOTH SIDES DUMBFUCK :rofl:


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_Russia%E2%80%93Ukraine_peace_negotiations#April_2022

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On 7 April, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said that the peace deal Ukraine drafted and presented to the Russian government contained "unacceptable" elements. Lavrov said that the proposal diverged from the terms negotiators had agreed on. Mykhaylo Podolyak, a negotiator for Ukraine, said that the comments from Lavrov are a tactic to draw attention away from the war crime accusations against Russian forces. Lastly, Lavrov stated, "Despite all the provocations, the Russian delegation will continue with the negotiation process, pressing for our own draft agreement that clearly and fully outlines our initial and key positions and requirements."[45]


Dishonest.

As.

Fuck.
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Nov 16 2022 05:27pm
Quote (Santara @ Nov 17 2022 12:58am)


russian propaganda fake news
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Nov 16 2022 05:32pm
Quote (HeLiCaL @ Nov 16 2022 05:27pm)
russian propaganda fake news


Dishonest.

As.

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Nov 16 2022 05:34pm
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Quote (Santara @ Nov 17 2022 01:32am)
Dishonest.

As.

Fuck.


go suck puttin instead of parroting kremlin propaganda
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Quote (Santara @ Nov 16 2022 02:58pm)
On 7 April, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said that the peace deal Ukraine drafted and presented to the Russian government contained "unacceptable" elements.

This was during the negotiations, so these things were still being worked out. Johnson's visit was two days later on the 9th, talks collapsed three days later on the 12th.

It's not some Russian conspiracy theory that Johnson was sent there to bring Zelensky back in line, here is Ukraine's outlet Pravda: https://www.pravda.com.ua/articles/2022/05/5/7344096/

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The second – much more unexpected – obstacle to agreements with the Russians arrived in Kyiv on April 9.

As soon as the Ukrainian negotiators and Abramovych/Medynskyi agreed in general terms on the structure of the future possible agreement based on the results of Istanbul, the Prime Minister of Great Britain Boris Johnson appeared in Kyiv almost without warning .

"Johnson brought two simple messages to Kyiv: Putin is a war criminal, he should be suppressed, not negotiated with. And secondly, if you are ready to sign any agreements on guarantees with him, then we are not. We can with you, but not with him, he will still abandon everyone ," one of Zelenskyi's close associates summarizes the essence of Johnson's visit.

Behind this visit and Johnson's words lies much more than a simple reluctance to engage in agreements with Russia.

The collective West, which back in February suggested that Zelenskyi surrender and run away, now felt that Putin is actually not as all-powerful as they imagined him to be.


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