There is literally less then a 1% chance of this in the short term (10+ years). Generations of misguidedly blaming the EU for all their woes resulted in Brexit, and there is no evidence to suggest a cultural shift either in politic's or from the populace to suggest they would, this time, embrace the EU as an equal partner.

so no, they are not rejoining the EU anytime soon.



As already stated, Brexit was good in the eyes of some in england as they no longer had to answer to a body outside of england. All political parties accepted that Brexit would be bad economically in the medium term (read; at least 10 years), regardless of what boris said to a gullible populace.

It is fascinating to see what will become of scotland in the next few years, but i hope n.ireland remains a part of the UK for at least 1-2 decades as the alternative (speaheaded by the growing sein fein party on the island of ireland) could well lead to a return to violence in the north on the part of those that wish to remain under the crown, who are not ready for this yet.

a bit like how the US should not have forced the Ukraine situation but rather should have played the long game and let Ukraine naturally become european (long term) *of course the goal of the US was not to take ukraine but to cripple russia, which its fair to say they are doing a very good job of*.

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the next leader of the conservative party should be Rishi Sunak but it would not surprise me (they are daft ok) if it was Boris Johnson. Yes, I said that.

This post was edited by ferdia on Oct 20 2022 09:14am

She didn't outlast the Tesco head of lettuce.

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/breaking-daily-star-lettuce-celebrates-28282527

There was never a plan for Brexit. It only went through because a majority of people felt so indifferent to the choice, they didn't bother voting. Scotland and NI voted to remain in the EU. Thanks to the broken constitutional makeup of the UK, they were brought out of the EU against their will.
Scottish First minister has indicated Scotland would seek to rejoin the EU in the event of separating from the UK. That comes mid parliamentary term and would be subject to a referendum itself. I expect it would be a popular choice.



At bold, that's not true. Sounds like the usual rhetoric from salty advocates for the EU.
What is happening to the conservative party is obviously affected by Brexit, economically. Worldwide inflation, rising living costs. But it's not the "ha we told you so" moment that Brexit remain advocates have been longing for.
The Tories are imploding. Bad decisions, losing market confidence, being removed from public opinion, political clambering.

Any PM that comes in has little or no practical mandate to form a functional government. They have a legal right to govern but no support of voters. Even voters that supported Boris Johnson 2019 campaign can't claim to support whatever Frankenstein cabinet is in place this week or next. 5 Chancellors since 2019

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/keir-starmer-calls-for-immediate-general-election-after-truss-resigns/ar-AA13bD03?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=de6bb947db2c4fa297e084386d02e228

i cant imagine the lengthy queues at the border if scotland leaves, would be funny as hell to witness people in 3 hour customs queues to go 10 miles to work.

Just picture any international land border? Probably overestimating the amount of cross border workers too, Scotland has a population of 5.5 million. Only a fraction live in Scotland and work in England.

Road cargo will be heavily affected.

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"We can say that she messed up doing anything, without taking into account the economic context"

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"End of reign" of the conservatives

In addition, Liz Truss appears in this crisis as a symbol of the end of the reign of the conservatives, in power for almost twelve years. "The party has reigned for too long, it is lost and makes mistakes, it has run out of ideas, judge Rainbow Murray. The same thing happened to Labor after Tony Blair's term of office. The Conservatives are at the end of their reign." Divided on their political identity, between a neo-liberal wing and the other more social, the conservatives "will have to reinvent themselves" and above all "find new leaders", believes the researcher.

aged like a fine wine

yeah i realize many people aren't living in Edinburgh and driving to London. but that border still sees a lot of crossing. people going to work, freight as you said, and lots of tourist caravans.

wont affect me much, when i do come back i'm not making the mistake of going to Glasgow again or heading south at all. we'll spend a few days in edinburgh then head to inverness.

you do not have to agree with me but conservative politicians have from almost inception, used the EU as a scape goat for domestic & international issues. It is well documented and easily proven. Ultimately and with brevity : the country left the EU and I dont expect them back any time soon. They made their decision and there is no mood to change their mind.



forget about the border, if scotland leaves the union it would be such a seismic shock to England. I cant even fathom it happening, and yet England continues its road to that day.

This post was edited by ferdia on Oct 20 2022 10:57am