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Jul 19 2022 12:12pm
Quote (Cascadian @ Jul 19 2022 01:54pm)
And I'm sure "discussing" on d2jsp with a deep and extreme right bias will be helpful.



Where is the right bias, sir? I don’t believe a single person has come here to agree with my point of view so far. You clearly don’t intend to add anything, but merely throw your popcorn and try to fuel a fire.

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Jul 19 2022 12:13pm
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Where is the right bias, sir? I don’t believe a single person has come here to agree with my point of view so far.


I said that d2jsp has an extreme right bias, I didn't mention anything about this thread. Given you have only 400 posts I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, but this site has an extreme... extreme right bias.

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Jul 19 2022 12:20pm
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Rare still happens. I am speaking about things that happen in real life. You basically said without this law (that isn’t a law) coat hanger abortions make a comeback. Okay.

And I am 100% saying anybody can gather $200 within 9 months if it is the most important thing they have to do. A flip phone from Walmart costs more than a plane ticket from Austin to Denver. The 9 year old rape victim in Ohio, who under Ohio law could have received her abortion in Ohio, instead traveled to Indiana to have her abortion in a more politically convenient location. At nine years old she got to another state, and she didn’t even have to.


I used the coat hanger as a hyperbole. Women will get abortions no matter what. Do you understand this? Would you rather have them abort their Fetus on their own or do you want them to have the best medical advice they can get?
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Jul 19 2022 12:34pm
Quote (Cascadian @ Jul 19 2022 11:13am)
I said that d2jsp has an extreme right bias, I didn't mention anything about this thread. Given you have only 400 posts I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, but this site has an extreme... extreme right bias.



He's aware. He's a multi who's main account was warned out of pard ages ago.
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Jul 19 2022 12:35pm
Quote (Cascadian @ Jul 19 2022 02:13pm)
I said that d2jsp has an extreme right bias, I didn't mention anything about this thread. Given you have only 400 posts I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, but this site has an extreme... extreme right bias.



If that is true I am very grateful all these right wing crazies are sitting back and allowing me to have this discussion with the other users. Generally tribalism kicks in and the shit show ensues, but in this case I feel we are having a decent discussion.


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I used the coat hanger as a hyperbole. Women will get abortions no matter what. Do you understand this? Would you rather have them abort their Fetus on their own or do you want them to have the best medical advice they can get?



You keep saying they won’t be able to get medical care, you act like this bill (that again, failed to become law so it doesn’t even effect what is going on today) is going to make the US such a better place.

We are talking about something that is not even a law, and you continue to circle back to “what if” situations.

The only real world situation, as I brought up in my last post which got completely ignored, was basically a farce. The extreme situation (9 year old rape victim) could have gone through the process with her mother to have her abortion at home, legally. They instead decided to go out of state to do it and have a doctor leak the misleading story to the press to make it seem like they had no choice but to go to Indiana. Mind you, this further proves how even a preteen girl can find a way out of state to have an abortion. You cannot even link this to any sort of privilege (ugh) because she was clearly a part of a lower class immigrant family.
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Jul 19 2022 12:36pm
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He's aware. He's a multi who's main account was warned out of pard ages ago.



I have asked you several times to stop harassing me.

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Jul 19 2022 12:40pm
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I have asked you several times to stop harassing me.



I'm not talking to you don't quote me wickeddarkjuggalos.
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Jul 19 2022 01:38pm
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If that is true I am very grateful all these right wing crazies are sitting back and allowing me to have this discussion with the other users. Generally tribalism kicks in and the shit show ensues, but in this case I feel we are having a decent discussion.





You keep saying they won’t be able to get medical care, you act like this bill (that again, failed to become law so it doesn’t even effect what is going on today) is going to make the US such a better place.

We are talking about something that is not even a law, and you continue to circle back to “what if” situations.

The only real world situation, as I brought up in my last post which got completely ignored, was basically a farce. The extreme situation (9 year old rape victim) could have gone through the process with her mother to have her abortion at home, legally. They instead decided to go out of state to do it and have a doctor leak the misleading story to the press to make it seem like they had no choice but to go to Indiana. Mind you, this further proves how even a preteen girl can find a way out of state to have an abortion. You cannot even link this to any sort of privilege (ugh) because she was clearly a part of a lower class immigrant family.



Again you don’t answer any questions.

You say you are fine with Colorado’s laws. So why not make it available in the whole country. Why should women in Colorado have the availabilty but other women from other states don’t?

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna38301

What you think about this? Travel ban for pregnant women? Then women need this bill, right?
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Jul 19 2022 01:39pm
Quote (Sioux @ 19 Jul 2022 11:34)
He's aware. He's a multi who's main account was warned out of pard ages ago.


I guess thats how some people get their kicks these days.

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If that is true I am very grateful all these right wing crazies are sitting back and allowing me to have this discussion with the other users. Generally tribalism kicks in and the shit show ensues, but in this case I feel we are having a decent discussion.


I didn't say anything about them being crazy, I just said extremely right leaning bias. if your goals are to facilitate discussion, you won't get it here.
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Jul 19 2022 06:50pm
Quote (YeeHaw @ Jul 18 2022 11:19am)
Anybody want to take another go? I still haven’t gotten anybody to defend this bill.

So far I got the basic, lazy, “government should stay out of it” and “abortion on demand up until birth because anti abortionists cannot express how their ideas would pan out”


I have defended this bill in its entirety, and through the interpretation you're hoping someone has.

The government has no place in forcing someone, by threat of punishment or through outright imprisonment, to be pregnant. As such, people should have access to safe, legal, and rare abortions at any time of gestation. The opposing position leads people to being held against their will until they give birth, that is, if people really want to be open and honest about what treating abortion as equivalent to murder would functionally look like.
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