Quote (Ephesians61213 @ May 13 2022 05:54pm)

Evidently, you don't know what a circular argument is. You should go look that up.

1. We have plenty of examples of apparently designed structures and processes (buildings, video games, computers, etc.) that we know are in fact designed.

2. We have no examples of apparently designed structures and processes that are in fact not designed.

3. The universe is apparently designed.

C. Therefore, it's more plausible than not that the universe is yet another example of an apparently designed structure or process that is in fact designed.

Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ May 13 2022 08:49pm)

I disagree that we have no examples of things that look designed but aren't. As I said before, we can easily make them out of pure randomness.

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I disagree that the universe is apparently designed.

Quote (Ephesians61213 @ May 13 2022 08:37pm)

Yeah... so you think the rock in your yard that is shaped like a heart is apparently designed. Yet,

You don't think the universe with all of its intelligible processes and laws is not apparently designed?

Sounds like you're lying.

Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ May 13 2022 09:46pm)

The universe as a whole is different from something within the universe.

Quote (Ephesians61213 @ May 13 2022 06:47pm)

I'm not sure what that has to with my point. Are you saying that the universe is apparently designed but that you're ignoring that fact because... it's the universe? Lmao

Quote (Sioux @ May 13 2022 09:04pm)

Whats your evidence that the universe is designed?

Quote (Ephesians61213 @ 13 May 2022 15:42)

There are at least 700 quintillion planets in the universe. That's 700 quintillion rolls of the dice for intelligent life. Out of the dice rolls that landed on intelligent life, not one has developed the technology and the desire to visit our planet or to communicate with us? That's absurd. Therefore, they're either already visiting us or they don't exist.

Now, there does seem to be something that is interacting with us. One problem. The thing that has been interacting with us doesn't behave in a way that one would expect another intelligent and biological entity to behave. See Jacques Vallee's work for more information.

Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ May 13 2022 10:05pm)

It looks designed.

Duh!

Quote (18nomaUSEast @ May 13 2022 10:10pm)

Sounds like you believe in a really shitty god. What kind of loser only makes intelligent species for 700 quintillion planets

Quote (Ephesians61213 @ 13 May 2022 22:18)

Probably one that wants to emphasize how improbable a life-permitting planet is.