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Mar 25 2022 04:53pm
Quote (Santara @ Mar 25 2022 03:42pm)
There ISN'T GOING TO BE AN ALL OUT WAR over just Ukraine, Chicken Little.


We can hope. Many people said Russia would never invade, and here we are. I do think any salvation from further escalation will have to come from Russia/Ukraine rather than anything smart that President Poopypants will come up with.
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Quote (Djunior @ 25 Mar 2022 23:23)
So you conveniently forgot what came before all this?

Round after round of NATO expansion is actually the West doing what it wants.

It is the Eastern Europeans finally being free to do what they want (out of their own volition): making sure that they never have to live under Russian rule ever again. Countries like Poland or the Baltics couldn't join NATO fast enough, I wonder why...



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And the West doubling down and getting ready to take what used to be their sphere of influence (Ukraine, Georgia) and making it our sphere of influence is just poking the bear lol.

These places having been within the Russian sphere of influence doesn't give Russia an eternal right to rule there. These are sovereign nations who can decide their own fate. If they want to associate with the West and Russia lacks the power to stop them from doing so, then so be it.

I've been sympathetic and understanding of Russian security concerns post-2014, but with this invasion, they've crossed a line. I had a ton of patience with the Russian position, but now my patience with their bullshit has run out.

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Mar 25 2022 04:58pm
Quote (Nibthebarb @ Mar 25 2022 05:53pm)
We can hope. Many people said Russia would never invade, and here we are. I do think any salvation from further escalation will have to come from Russia/Ukraine rather than anything smart that President Poopypants will come up with.


Most of the people who said Russia would never invade are the same ones defending Russia over the invasion now.

Things that make you go... hmmmmmmm.
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Mar 25 2022 05:30pm
Quote (Santara @ Mar 25 2022 03:58pm)
Most of the people who said Russia would never invade are the same ones defending Russia over the invasion now.

Things that make you go... hmmmmmmm.


Binary thinking. Odd for a self proclaimed right winger in 2022.

One can acknowledge the nuance, consider both sides' concerns without explicitly "defending russia". Responding to a sledgehammer with another sledgehammer isn't helpful in this situation
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Quote (Nibthebarb @ Mar 25 2022 06:30pm)
Binary thinking. Odd for a self proclaimed right winger in 2022.

One can acknowledge the nuance, consider both sides' concerns without explicitly "defending russia". Responding to a sledgehammer with another sledgehammer isn't helpful in this situation


It's binary thinking to come to the conclusion that people who were wrong could be wrong again?

Helpful to what end? Overall population loss due to armed conflict? Probably. Loss of social identity and cohesion? Probably not.
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Quote (Skinned @ Mar 25 2022 10:04pm)
Okay Neville Chamberlain. Only a true cuck at heart could believe self defense is only a craze.

I know your go to answer is being submissive but alot of men aren't like that buddy.


You smashing that report button shows exactly what you're made of lol


Quote (Santara @ Mar 25 2022 11:42pm)
There ISN'T GOING TO BE AN ALL OUT WAR over just Ukraine, Chicken Little.


And what you're gonna say when it actually happens Eeyore


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Mar 26 2022 07:31am
Quote (Djunior @ Mar 26 2022 05:01am)
And what you're gonna say when it actually happens Eeyore

https://i.imgur.com/KrZZs0e.jpg


Guess we'll find out if it ever happens, Anastasia.
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Mar 26 2022 09:44am
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Mar 25 2022 11:54pm)
It is the Eastern Europeans finally being free to do what they want (out of their own volition): making sure that they never have to live under Russian rule ever again. Countries like Poland or the Baltics couldn't join NATO fast enough, I wonder why...



Tell the Russians, I'm sure they gonna agree with your assessment, pull out of Ukraine and allow the West to encircle them completely, missile systems on Russia's border everywhere and all that.

And we all lived happily ever after right?
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Mar 26 2022 09:50am
Quote (Djunior @ Mar 26 2022 10:44am)
Tell the Russians, I'm sure they gonna agree with your assessment, pull out of Ukraine and allow the West to encircle them completely, missile systems on Russia's border everywhere and all that.

And we all lived happily ever after right?


Fuck the Russians. Oh waaahhhh! The countries I abused for decades don't like me!!!! Cry moar, Viktor.
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Mar 26 2022 09:54am
Biden has helped form a bigger coalition against RU than I ever imagined. He also has kept troops out and the group has put a serious hurting on RU economy, and not added troops.
I really have no complaints about what has happened so far.
Besides the fact he looks like he could fall over at any moment
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