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#111
Jul 22 2022 11:19am
Quote (Ironfister @ Jul 22 2022 06:17pm)
1) the sanctions are only partially in effect. West is still buying some Russian oil and gas and coal.
Sanctions grow in time, as Europe finds different supplies.
China wont replace west, because they dont want to make themselves dependant on Russia, they want to have many suppliers.
We will see how well Russia deals with sanctions over time, imo they wont be good with it and will have more and more problems over time.

Also if not the sanctions, then the Ukraine would be in worst position. And that's what we need to compare against.

2) As I said before, Russia lost like 40% until april, but since then they reduced the battles, they dont fight large scale invasion any longer. Now the frontline is mostly steady.
Now Russians are still at 40% losses, as they try to partially rebuild their military.
They get the criminals out of the prisons, they also recruit new soldiers, they increased the age for new recruits, they try to repair and bring back some old tanks into service etc.

I dont know who will win the war, both sides are bleeding heavily.


Ah, according to you April 21st they lost 40% and 3 full months later, after Mariupol, Severodonetsk and Lysychansk (all big battles) they're still at 40% losses. You're making up numbers as you go ^^

Also, do you realize most "Russian casualties" are people from DPR and LPR that were mobilized including men in their sixties? We're talking about Ukrainians fighting Ukrainians here.

You should watch the vid I posted a few posts back cuz it looks like your knowledge is lacking.

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Jul 22 2022 11:20am
Quote (Djunior @ Jul 22 2022 12:19pm)
Ah, according to you April 21st they'd lost 40% and 3 full months later, after Mariupol, Severodonetsk and Lysychansk (all big battles) they're still at 40% losses. You're making up numbers as you go ^^

Also, do you realize most "Russian casualties" are people from DPR and LPR that were mobilized including men in their sixties? We're talking about Ukrainians fighting Ukrainians here.

You should watch the vid I posted a few posts back cuz it looks like your knowledge is lacking.


Imagine supporting Russia invading on liberation grounds then calling DPR and LRP people Ukrainians.

/facepalm
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Jul 22 2022 11:31am
Quote (Santara @ Jul 22 2022 06:15am)
How are they going to react? They're going to die.

Quote me saying sanctions will work quickly.
They are pretty much defeated.
I said the US can grow more wheat to make up for the Ukrainian shortfall. I didn't say it would be overnight. The current shortage is in winter wheat, which would have to be planted last fall. Grain prices only skyrocketed for winter wheat.


its funny that idiots who couldnt grow lettuce in a window box like to spout off incorrectly about agriculture so often. i recall one time i had to tell card sultan that there were different types of corn, because i said we grow pop corn, and he said "dont u just mean corn?", lol.

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Jul 22 2022 11:32am
Quote (Subwoofer @ Jul 22 2022 07:20pm)
Imagine supporting Russia invading on liberation grounds then calling DPR and LRP people Ukrainians.

/facepalm


Where am I supporting Russia? I'm calling DPR/LPR Ukrainians cuz that's what they are.

Good to know you're also one of those that are being played by MSM and suck up everything you're told.

/epic facepalm
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Jul 22 2022 11:35am
Quote (Djunior @ 22 Jul 2022 19:19)
Ah, according to you April 21st they lost 40% and 3 full months later, after Mariupol, Severodonetsk and Lysychansk (all big battles) they're still at 40% losses. You're making up numbers as you go ^^

Also, do you realize most "Russian casualties" are people from DPR and LPR that were mobilized including men in their sixties? We're talking about Ukrainians fighting Ukrainians here.

You should watch the vid I posted a few posts back cuz it looks like your knowledge is lacking.


April 21st Mariupol was pretty much just azowstal sieged, not a big battle any more. Also severodonetsk and Lysychansk had to be left behind by Ukrainians simply to avoid encirclement of UA troops. These two cites are average size, not very big.
And I told you that Russians lost some troops, but also rebuilt some, that's why 40% losses number stay on the same level over time. What you dont understand here?

I read that Wagner mercenary group recently reinforced Russia army, but they also suffered heavy losses lately.
Im aware that Russia is forcing captured Ukrainians into russian army, this is one of Russia classic moves, along with tortures and starving people to death.
I just hope enough of these poor people make their way to safely capitulate to the Ukrainian Army, before they are shot down.
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Jul 22 2022 02:16pm
Quote (thesnipa @ Jul 22 2022 07:31pm)
its funny that idiots who couldnt grow lettuce in a window box like to spout off incorrectly about agriculture so often. i recall one time i had to tell card sultan that there were different types of corn, because i said we grow pop corn, and he said "dont u just mean corn?", lol.


You know what's really funny? That I explained to him months back that most of it is winter wheat that needs to be planted in fall https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=92094408&f=119&o=2190

Quote (Djunior @ Mar 19 2022 10:07pm)
We're talking about 1/3 of total world wheat exports https://farmpolicynews.illinois.edu/2022/02/russia-invades-ukraine-supply-disruption-concerns-fuel-wheat-fertilizer-prices/



This is immense. ^Santara suggesting this is nothing and get be negotiated easily without any difficulty is beyond ridiculous. Taking into account a large percentage is winter wheat (planted in fall) and that available spring wheat seed material will be limited.

My guess is that Russia prefers the cash at the moment but when they decide to strike back with sanctions the whole world will have to deal with crazy commodity prices and fertilizer prizes, there's no way around it. And yes like I stated before the poorest countries are the ones that are going to suffer as usual.



Try again snipa :rofl:
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Jul 22 2022 02:19pm
Quote (Djunior @ Jul 22 2022 03:16pm)
You know what's really funny? That I explained to him months back that most of it is winter wheat that needs to be planted in fall https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=92094408&f=119&o=2190




Try again snipa :rofl:


what he said is true, USA produces 10x the corn that Ukraine produces wheat. and a 10% adjustment to crop plantings could make up for an entirely zero crop season of the Ukraine.
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Jul 22 2022 02:28pm
Quote (thesnipa @ Jul 22 2022 10:19pm)
what he said is true, USA produces 10x the corn that Ukraine produces wheat. and a 10% adjustment to crop plantings could make up for an entirely zero crop season of the Ukraine.


We're talking about winter wheat planted in fall, remember?
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#119
Jul 22 2022 02:31pm
Quote (Djunior @ Jul 22 2022 03:28pm)
We're talking about winter wheat planted in fall, remember?


You're being willfully obtuse. Santara was clearly saying in a prolonged war when farmers take up weapons to fight in a war that could last several growing seasons the USA farmers can accommodate the global shortage by growing less ethanol/syrup corn, and instead grow wheat.

you somehow spun this into santara saying that we'd do this in real time, simply because he used the word easily. despite him correcting you lol.
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#120
Jul 22 2022 02:31pm
Putin doesn't need to win the war he merele needs to delay and cripple the economy.

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