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Jan 28 2022 11:21am
Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ 28 Jan 2022 18:12)
Biden isn't a moderate. He just always positions himself as a moderate.

lol k


Did you even read what I wrote? I said Biden positions himself where his party is. Meaning that he took some outright conservative positions during the 70s through 90s while he now takes increasingly liberal positions, just as his party is lurching ever more to the left since at least 2012.



Quote (Surfpunk @ 28 Jan 2022 18:13)
You literally within two sentences say that Biden is not a moderate, then say he positions himself in the middle. Are you even listening to yourself?

I did not say that he positions himself in the middle of the ideological spectrum, or in the middle of the American electorate - I said that he positions himself in the middle of his party. And his party is no longer moderate, it has moved significantly to the left on every major issue over the past decade or so, in many cases dramatically. A Democratic politician who's saying the same things about race, gender, migration or economic policies as Obama did in 08 would be considered a racist sexist xenophobic transphobic capitalist pig by the party's present-day base.
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Jan 28 2022 11:23am
Quote (Surfpunk @ Jan 28 2022 11:20am)
I misread your previous comment. I thought you were referring to Biden himself, not the potential nominee. Hadn't had enough coffee that early, apparently. I don't see him nominating a centrist, either.


People should apologize instead of giving excuses when they are wrong and know they are wrong.

Just sayin........
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Jan 28 2022 11:24am
Quote (Surfpunk @ Jan 28 2022 07:13pm)
Why am I surprised that you don't know shit about fuck?

https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/855/893/c7a.jpg


why im not surprised youre still unaware how you falsely called braindead biden a moderate, then confessed his actions are actually fringe, and then out of desperation pooped out some random strawman

stay dumb champ
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Jan 28 2022 11:24am
Quote (Subwoofer @ Jan 28 2022 12:23pm)
People should apologize instead of giving excuses when they are wrong and know they are wrong.

Just sayin........


I think that's what he did without being too obvious bout it. It could be pride but i respect the fact he took the first steps. Lot of people can't admit they were wrong.
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Jan 28 2022 11:25am
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jan 28 2022 09:21am)
Did you even read what I wrote? I said Biden positions himself where his party is. Meaning that he took some outright conservative positions during the 70s through 90s while he now takes increasingly liberal positions, just as his party is lurching ever more to the left since at least 2012.




I did not say that he positions himself in the middle of the ideological spectrum, or in the middle of the American electorate - I said that he positions himself in the middle of his party. And his party is no longer moderate, it has moved significantly to the left on every major issue over the past decade or so, in many cases dramatically. A Democratic politician who's saying the same things about race, gender, migration or economic policies as Obama did in 08 would be considered a racist sexist xenophobic transphobic capitalist pig by the party's present-day base.


Please explain how the L is extreme and the R is moderate..
Please don't give me trans phobia dr phil videos
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Jan 28 2022 11:27am
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Please explain how the L is extreme and the R is moderate..
Please don't give me trans phobia dr phil videos


open borders & secretly bussing illegals across the country - extreme

closed borders while allowing not-lying refugeees in - moderate

how braindead were you to not know this :rofl:
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Jan 28 2022 11:28am
Quote (theCrossbones @ 28 Jan 2022 18:25)
Please explain how the L is extreme and the R is moderate..
Please don't give me trans phobia dr phil videos


I didn't call the present-day Democrats extreme, I called them leftist. Biden more or less represents the median Democrat, and the median Democrat these days is no longer a moderate.

Jfc, it truly baffles my mind how you guys all misunderstand my point so badly although it's very simple...
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Jan 28 2022 11:29am
Quote (theCrossbones @ Jan 28 2022 12:25pm)
Please explain how the L is extreme and the R is moderate..
Please don't give me trans phobia dr phil videos


What if both sides are extreme and that people outside these political groups are the one who can see clearly without having bias toward their own?
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Jan 28 2022 11:29am
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jan 28 2022 11:21am)
Did you even read what I wrote? I said Biden positions himself where his party is. Meaning that he took some outright conservative positions during the 70s through 90s while he now takes increasingly liberal positions, just as his party is lurching ever more to the left since at least 2012.


Yes, and it actually works more against your statement. What is moderate changes over time, and if Biden is specifically positioning himself at the center during that entire time he is by definition the most moderate candidate possible.

Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jan 28 2022 11:28am)
I didn't call the present-day Democrats extreme, I called them leftist. Biden more or less represents the median Democrat, and the median Democrat these days is no longer a moderate.

Jfc, it truly baffles my mind how you guys all misunderstand my point so badly although it's very simple...


LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

Holy shit you live in a fantasy. The only part of the Democratic party that could even be slightly called leftists (who are still firmly in the camp of "liberal", and not remotely leftist) have no power within the party.



This post was edited by NetflixAdaptationWidow on Jan 28 2022 11:30am
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Jan 28 2022 11:31am
Quote (HeLiCaL @ Jan 28 2022 11:27am)
open borders & secretly bussing illegals across the country - extreme

closed borders while allowing not-lying refugeees in - moderate

how braindead were you to not know this :rofl:


So what do you call actively deporting refugees without due process and while they aren't allowed to apply for refugee status while not on American soil? Because that's been both Biden and Trump's policy.

This post was edited by NetflixAdaptationWidow on Jan 28 2022 11:31am
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