why TF am I post lol???

Fuck you beer

That's a really dumb argument though. Those countries have much much stronger social safety nets, so 8k euros a year will go much much further than the equivilant in the United States will.

Just health insurance would eat probably half of that 20k even after subsidy for a family.

This post was edited by NetflixAdaptationWidow on Dec 2 2021 01:07am

Again……

You are a rude idiot.

But it’s almost like nothing you talked about even matters when I don’t ever have to worry about my life or the life of my family. Huh, funny how being confident you are going to stay alive makes you feel better. Ya know, not having to depend on complete strangers for personal safety.

This post was edited by WickedDarkJuggalos on Dec 1 2021 12:04am

you cant quote the post anymore. It was reoprted. Easy to under stand. Can't rely on others. A (Gun is not the only wepon)?????[/QUOTE]


Just spent 5 6 posts basically saying, yeah I said what I said, and used those words because that is what I wanted to say. Crazy >_>

8k US dollars. I did the translation for you.

How is it a bad argument. If you worked like 15 hours at minimum wage in the United States, you would literally be above the poverty line in the UK.

Also, if you only make that much in the US you apply for basically every social welfare program available to supplement your income.

Do I really have to go there again, where I explain how somebody who has zero income has almost exactly as much potential spending power as I do?? I’ve done it several times before and you have flat out ignored it.

This post was edited by WickedDarkJuggalos on Dec 2 2021 01:12am

i applaud you for probably the smartest decision you made in this whole thread: simply walk away and pretend you didn't get exposed as the (atrocious, but involuntarily funny) liar you are, uncritically regurgitating demonstrably wrong talking points, and then completely malfunctioning when challenged, lol.

i'd say good riddance, but i already know that's not happening because your fragile ego won't be able to handle it, so i'll just tell you to change your pants before replying again.

Social spending is far less in the U.S. We have a much lower social safety net relative to Europe generally and the U.K. specifically. So a 1:1 comparison on income levels doesn't make sense.

Oh look

https://www.trustforlondon.org.uk/data/poverty-thresholds/

The UK poverty line after housing costs is 346 euro a week for a family of four, which translates to 18k euros a year, or 20,362 USD. Which is pretty close to our limit of 26,500. Oh wait, except it isn't. Because that is AFTER housing costs in the U.K., and in the U.S. that's not specified. So in actuality, our poverty line is way lower than theirs despite a worse social safety net.

This post was edited by NetflixAdaptationWidow on Dec 2 2021 01:35am

Some people >_>

Saying having a worse safety net is purely subjective.

There are many people that have never worked a day in their life and the state pays every single expense, including housing, food, all utilities, car insurance, medical insurance, and spending money. I know several people who live 100% off the state.

How can you conceive a better safety net than a system that pays literally 100% of their cost of living AND gives them money on a debit card.

I sincerely do not understand your argument. I am not exaggerating one bit people consciously choose to live 100% off the state, mind you being statistically in poverty because they have zero income.

People also decline higher paying jobs JUST so they can continue receiving state benefits. These are conscious decisions people make to take advantage of the system, and they are being used as a statistic in an argument to say how shitty life is in the United States.

Hard to take you seriously when you make such a dumb statement. By pretty much any metric our social safety net is worse than the U.K. We spend less on disability, we spend less on unemployment, we have worse access to healthcare, we have worse labor protection laws, etc.

I challenge you to find anything we do better than they do in terms of providing a social safety net.


Skimming the rest it's the usual drivel by people who don't understand how the welfare system actually works. "Wahhh I lived in it" cool story bro. Maybe if you were educated enough to know how the world works you wouldn't have been on it in the first place. Rats in a maze know less than the scientist who built it.





This line is the only valid point you have, and it's still wrong. People don't decline raises because they want to take advantage of the system. It's because for every dollar they get in a raise they will get more cut from their welfare benefits, so the raise isn't actually a raise. It's a problem with the system, not a problem with people taking advantage of it.

This post was edited by NetflixAdaptationWidow on Dec 2 2021 01:49am

Do you know how to speak without insulting people?

You are saying that somebody with first hand knowledge on a subject cannot speak on a subject? Like what?? You read about it and I have first hand knowledge and see how it affects the people who live within the system. Yet somehow you k ow better than me? Do I have this right?

You are saying that 100% of everything you need to live comfortably in the US given to you by the state for free without having to work for it isn’t enough of a safety net?

Everything I said is a valid point, but you are suggesting it simply isn’t enough because the government spends less? Am I getting that correct?

I literally don’t know how to make the point any clearer than in the US you can have literally everything you need handed right to you by the state. I know I am getting repetitive but seriously how is that not enough?

I absolutely agree that there could be better options when it comes to free healthcare, the states can obviously afford it. That still doesn’t take away from the fact that “poverty” doesn’t mean you actually live in poverty.