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Nov 6 2021 05:16pm
Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ 6 Nov 2021 18:41)
You are desparately trying to restrict our conversation to the Mueller report because the smoking gun came out well after that.

Manafort giving campaign data to Kilimnik happened, and conclusive evidence came to light well after the Mueller investigation concluded.

I get you're desparate for any sort of plausible deniability, but do better.

this is bizarre coming from a person who denies the report this topic is about. not only that, you fraudulently entered into a willing contract to borrow taxpayer funds and refuse to pay said funds back as per the terms, even though services were rendered
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Nov 6 2021 05:59pm
Add this to the long list of things the left cried about for years & was still wrong about. Trump wasn't a Russian puppet, Trump didn't win because of Russia, & the left's precious Steele Dossier was hilariously fabricated.
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You straight up called my buddy thor an idiot on the last page, this glass house you are building is one stone from disaster.
As I said we have no issues with a high minimum wage here.



He is an idiot. He is the dumbest fucking person I have seen on this page. If he even once ever acknowledged true things I have said I would think he was a serious person, but he clearly is only here to argue even (especially) when he is dead wrong.

Congratulations on making honest business decisions for the better of your employees. That is not how all businesses work.

Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Nov 6 2021 08:22pm)
You just don't know how logic works. I provided my example. At least 90% of catholics are pedophiles. How else could the world's most powerful religious institution get away with harboaring and aiding pedophiles?

Let's try to keep it civil here. We're just having a discussion.




This post was edited by WickedDarkJuggalos on Nov 6 2021 06:49pm
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Nov 6 2021 06:56pm
Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Nov 6 2021 06:41pm)
You are desparately trying to restrict our conversation to the Mueller report because the smoking gun came out well after that.

Manafort giving campaign data to Kilimnik happened, and conclusive evidence came to light well after the Mueller investigation concluded.

I get you're desparate for any sort of plausible deniability, but do better.


We know that Manafort gave campaign data to Kilimnik because it's covered at length in the Mueller report. Three strikes and you're out.

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Manafort instructed Rick Gates, his deputy on the Campaign and a longtime employee, to provide Kilimnik with updates on the Trump Campaign—including internal polling data, although Manafort claims not to recall that specific instruction. Manafort expected Kilimnik to
share that information with others in Ukraine and with Deripaska. Gates periodically sent such polling data to Kilimnik during the campaign.


When you've read the report sufficiently that you're not making elemental mistakes in every post, we can discuss this. But right now you have no idea what you're talking about.
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Nov 6 2021 06:59pm
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We know that Manafort gave campaign data to Kilimnik because it's covered at length in the Mueller report. Three strikes and you're out.

When you've read the report sufficiently that you're not making elemental mistakes in every post, we can discuss this. But right now you have no idea what you're talking about.


I misspoke. Conclusive evidence that Kilimnik was directly connected to Russian intelligence.

The overall point I was making is unaffected by that mistake.

You're desparate to segregate things to only the Mueller report because we've had conclusive evidence for quite a while now.
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Nov 6 2021 07:23pm
Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Nov 6 2021 08:59pm)
I misspoke. Conclusive evidence that Kilimnik was directly connected to Russian intelligence.

The overall point I was making is unaffected by that mistake.

You're desparate to segregate things to only the Mueller report because we've had conclusive evidence for quite a while now.


The evidence we have for Kilimnik being tied to Russian intelligence comes directly from the Mueller report. Mueller asserts that Kilimnik has ties to Russian intelligence insofar as he was a translator in the Russian army, attended the Military Institute of the Ministry of Defense between 1987 and 1992, and lobbied for various projects tied to Russian-allied Ukrainian oligarchs. Again, these are all things which you can learn by reading the actual report.

The "new information" that I'm aware of is a press release by the Treasury Department asserting that Kilimnik passed the largely public polling data on to Russian intelligence. That's certainly a big claim, because neither the Senate intel report nor the Mueller report were able to make that determination. Unfortunately, when asked by NBC for a little more clarity on what new evidence had supposedly come to light, the Treasury department declined to answer. I'm sure the timing between Biden taking office and the release is a coincidence, so we'll continue to do our due diligence and wait for them to provide us with an answer.
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Nov 6 2021 07:39pm
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The evidence we have for Kilimnik being tied to Russian intelligence comes directly from the Mueller report. Mueller asserts that Kilimnik has ties to Russian intelligence insofar as he was a translator in the Russian army, attended the Military Institute of the Ministry of Defense between 1987 and 1992, and lobbied for various projects tied to Russian-allied Ukrainian oligarchs. Again, these are all things which you can learn by reading the actual report.

The "new information" that I'm aware of is a press release by the Treasury Department asserting that Kilimnik passed the largely public polling data on to Russian intelligence. That's certainly a big claim, because neither the Senate intel report nor the Mueller report were able to make that determination. Unfortunately, when asked by NBC for a little more clarity on what new evidence had supposedly come to light, the Treasury department declined to answer. I'm sure the timing between Biden taking office and the release is a coincidence, so we'll continue to do our due diligence and wait for them to provide us with an answer.


Kilmnik literally lives on a GRU base but go on
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Nov 6 2021 08:29pm
Hillary hires foriegn spys to make up fake claims of trump working with russia. Cant make this shit up. Hillary worked with foreign spys to create propaganda against her political opponents
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Nov 6 2021 09:42pm
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Kilmnik literally lives on a GRU base but go on


Are you seriously misquoting a Wikipedia entry that sources a Russian language puff piece?
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Nov 6 2021 10:01pm
Quote (bogie160 @ Nov 6 2021 08:42pm)
Are you seriously misquoting a Wikipedia entry that sources a Russian language puff piece?


How far you've fallen bogie
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