I'm not being dishonest. I didn't say mRNA is BRAND NEW. My point is that these vaccines were RUSHED. I'm not going to continue arguing about such silliness. In time, when the majority of the population gets fucked by these vaccines, you'll see. Then your face will be just like the owl in your sig.

Depending on your definition on fear mongering you can definitely say that. The difference is fear mongering that this is just a grab at compliance from the government is baseless while allowing a virus to mutate freely while having risk groups dying is a valid concern

Are you aware that vaccinated individuals are actually infected just as easily as unvaccinated by new variants--sometimes even easier than unvaccinated? Kinda seems jacked up, especially knowing that new variants are inevitable.

Oh, and as far as the new variants transmission somehow being lessened by the vaccines, that isn't accurate. People are literally being tricked into vaccines, then being pushed into telling unvaccinated to get vaccinations when the vaccinations don't even protect the vaccinated. LOL.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jemimamcevoy/2021/08/06/fully-vaccinated-may-transmit-delta-just-as-easily-and-new-variant-shows-signs-of-vaccine-evasion-early-uk-research-suggests/?sh=564165d21ac5

But seriously, there's so much information and misinformation out there that it's silly to even quote sources anymore. Too much BS all around. Anyone can find a source to support their claims really.

This post was edited by net on Oct 11 2021 09:57pm

You are being dishonest, because as I said before, how new a technology is has no bearing on how safe or effective it is. You do not need 10-15 years to assess safety. Period, end of story. You are cherry picking because you are not willing to hear answers you don't want to hear.

My wife's son is against the vaxx.

You posted a source about EARLY finding and suggestions this may be the case. The problem with your argument once again is that data in science changes and the way you handle the virus does as well, but when that happens you get overly skeptical about it as if it’s them attempting to control you.

And sure you can try to discredit all sources that way but when the same source you said has this in the same piece of info you posted:

PHE has labelled the variant "under investigation" but has not declared it a "variant of concern" - a designation that can trigger strong policy responses.

"There is preliminary laboratory evidence to suggest that vaccination and previous infection may be less effective at preventing infection with (B.1.621)," it said, adding there had been 37 confirmed cases of the variant in England.

"However, this data is very limited and more research is required. There is no evidence to suggest that (it) is more transmissible than the dominant Delta variant."

So you could either discredit entirely or… wait for them to actually confirm or deny findings like a logical person instead of jumping on a boat

Hear deez. The fact is simple: we'll have to wait and see what happens. We can sit here and argue all day but no one will ever be right or wrong due to lack of data PLUS the vaccines themselves have a huge question mark in regards to their long-term side effects. Blood clots seem to already be appearing. Can't wait to see how the list grows and grows. Source: https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02291-2


The only boat I'm jumping in here is that I'm avoiding the vaccination and letting everyone else be test dummies.

This post was edited by net on Oct 11 2021 10:15pm

is getting steamrolled here lol

Get right guy. Lol damn.

I'm not worried about it. The people I'm arguing against got jabbed with some random crap from the government. The only thing steam rolled here is people complying and accepting rushed vaccines. The CDC literally had to change the definition of a vaccine because these aren't even real vaccines. I cannot help if people cannot accept simple facts, but I do not think that counts as me being steam rolled.

You’re getting steamrolled by people who work in the field of medical science and are infinitely more equipped to speak about it than you.

It really doesn’t matter how much you huff and puff lol. It is what it is.

You being scared and asserting conspiracies literally mean nothing here. It’s been fun though.

This post was edited by FunkDoc on Oct 11 2021 10:21pm