Quote (thundercock @ Nov 22 2021 12:45am)
The burden is on you to prove that, not me or him. Perhaps you should have been more attentive in middle school. But yes, we do live in two different Americas. On one side, you have a gullible population that will listen to whatever they hear on YouTube, MSNBC, Fox, etc. On the other side, you have a select few who are able to analyze data, deal with nuance, and understand the big picture. One side is intellectually curious and the other side doesn't think.
The side that just goes with the narrative is the intelligent curious side and the one who is questioning when things don’t add up is the side who doesn’t think? Okay.
Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Nov 22 2021 12:41am)
That's because it's easy for me to find them when asked. I gave you the methodology so you can look it up yourself, but if you ask I can get it easily.
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7015a4.htm"Approximately 75%–88% of excess deaths were directly associated with COVID-19. Excluding deaths directly associated with COVID-19, an estimated 63,700–162,400 more persons than expected died from other causes."
In total the deaths in the U.S. due to covid in 2020 was 770k. 162400 / 770,000 = 21%
Not as high as I was saying, but that's because the numbers I was working with were from mid-late 2020. Looks like the final numbers came down quite a bit compared to then. Still shows a pretty clear trend that deaths were under-counted.
Associated with does not mean Covid killed them. That was my point the entire time. For the umpteenth time this conversation is ridiculous because we are not even on the same planet right now.