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Jul 22 2021 02:33pm
Quote (Djunior @ Jul 22 2021 03:31pm)
Everyone can see I've made my point several times over, all I needed however was that list of Gheed's dialogue which shows what a different game D2 really is compared to politically correct D3.

The difference is so clear and in your face, you lost the debate right there it's just that your opinion is different which doesn't change the obvious. Sorry buddy


Again, sanding off the edges to allow for wider audience appeal isn't something most people would see as "woke". That is not an example of wokeness in Diablo 3 unless you are willing to dilute the definition of "woke" to just mean "anything company does that I don't like", which is stupid.
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Jul 22 2021 02:34pm
Quote (thundercock @ Jul 22 2021 01:05pm)
So what? PoE is the current king of ARPGs. Blizzard's MO has never been about innovation, but polish. Obviously, they don't adhere to that anymore but that's the historical case.



People look at their childhood with rose tinted glasses when it comes to gaming. D2 is a 20 year old game so it simply doesn't withstand the test of time. It was fucking incredible back then but times change.


And even today, 2 decades + later, D2 still reigns king over PoE's itemization and loot. D3's too, and 99% of the other shitty arpgs

This post was edited by ChocolateCoveredGummyBears on Jul 22 2021 02:35pm
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Quote (duffman316 @ Jul 22 2021 03:54pm)
I clicked amd from that list and see no marxist language


Your opinion is invalid.
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Jul 22 2021 02:39pm
Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Jul 22 2021 10:33pm)
Again, sanding off the edges to allow for wider audience appeal isn't something most people would see as "woke". That is not an example of wokeness in Diablo 3 unless you are willing to dilute the definition of "woke" to just mean "anything company does that I don't like", which is stupid.


Sanding off the edges is massive understatement. They changed so much that hardcore D2 fans that were dying for D3 simply ditched it after a short time.

You lost this debate already I don't get why I still come up with new arguments while you have none and only repeat yourself

:rolleyes:
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Jul 22 2021 02:45pm
Quote (Djunior @ Jul 22 2021 01:32pm)
Why did you not mention pvp / low lever dueling? It's only the main endgame after everything else...


1. I played hardcore and you learn quite quickly to avoid that shit once you get TPPK'd.
2. The 1.10 runewords ruined the game IMO from a pvp perspective.
3. I can't speak to LLDs.

Quote (ChocolateCoveredGummyBears @ Jul 22 2021 01:34pm)
And even today, 2 decades + later, D2 still reigns king over PoE's itemization and loot. D3's too, and 99% of the other shitty arpgs


I think if itemization forces dupes to exist, then there's a fundamental flaw in your design. There's also the aspect of 95% of items were useless which is another ding. How much flexibility does a hammerdin have in terms of chest? How many helms were used?

I think one aspect that was actually really good was the fact that SOME rares could actually be better than uniques.
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Jul 22 2021 02:53pm
Quote (Djunior @ Jul 22 2021 01:39pm)
Sanding off the edges is massive understatement. They changed so much that hardcore D2 fans that were dying for D3 simply ditched it after a short time.

You lost this debate already I don't get why I still come up with new arguments while you have none and only repeat yourself

:rolleyes:


Out of 100 people, what percent of hardcore D2 fans would say that political correctness was the main factor of them ditching the game?
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Jul 22 2021 03:13pm
Quote (thundercock @ Jul 22 2021 03:26pm)
D2's end game patch 1.09 below:
leg?
moo moo moo, moo ma moo moo
WHO THE FUCK KILLED KING
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37
37
37

1.10+
everyone waits in town until throne TP
wahahahahaha
minions dead in 2 seconds
wahahahahahaha
minions dead in 2 seconds
wahahahahaha
minions dead in 2 seconds
wahahahahahaha
minions dead in 2 seconds
wahahahahahaha
minions dead in 2 seconds
ugh ugh ugh ugh no noooooooooo
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49
49
49


D2's end game is complete shit


Yes but at any time u can become rich. All d3 offers is a chance at a minor personal upgrade in gear
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Jul 22 2021 03:21pm
I'd also point out that we have contributed to our own demise.

Remember when you tested things to see what worked best. We had terrible skill tree choices. Gear that made little to no sense. Got frustrated when we couldn't figure something out and returned to it later.

Well not anymore. Now we google "Best X build" "How to solve X' "Quickest levelling route".

We don't want games that hand hold but most of us will google a guide that holds our hand.



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Quote (SBD @ 22 Jul 2021 17:21)
I'd also point out that we have contributed to our own demise.

Remember when you tested things to see what worked best. We had terrible skill tree choices. Gear that made little to no sense. Got frustrated when we couldn't figure something out and returned to it later.

Well not anymore. Now we google "Best X build" "How to solve X' "Quickest levelling route".

i put skill points into everything on my first paladin because the guide book basically recommended it. they lied to me i never needed conversion or resist fire aura lmao.
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Quote (excellence @ Jul 22 2021 03:24pm)
i put skill points into everything on my first paladin because the guide book basically recommended it. they lied to me i never needed conversion or resist fire aura lmao.


Now you have beta patch testers and the guide to the entire raid is posted online before the content is even released.
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