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Feb 3 2021 03:28pm
Quote (Jesus_Lives @ Feb 3 2021 04:27pm)
The Bible doesn't command to put Jews to death.


You mean the whole Jesus death for our sins thing wasn't part of the bible?
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Feb 3 2021 03:30pm
Quote (Cowaz @ Feb 3 2021 03:28pm)
You mean the whole Jesus death for our sins thing wasn't part of the bible?


I don't see the connection. Maybe you can explain it to me.
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Feb 3 2021 03:35pm
Quote (Jesus_Lives @ Feb 3 2021 10:11pm)
There is no "LTBQ community" in the Bible. It's hard to form a community if you are put death.

The war Christians fight is spiritual as Pastor Mejia clearly stated at the exact time you referenced.

Sodomites are filthy haters of God, full of all unrighteousness, implacable.


18For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness; 19Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them. 20For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: 21Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. 22Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, 23And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.

24Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: 25Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

26For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: 27And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

28And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; 29 Being filled with all unrighteousness , fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, 30Backbiters, haters of God , despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, 31Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable , unmerciful: 32Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.


Yes, didn't want to cut that part out for other objective viewers. The rest is a full out war speech, It's a complete brainwash to stand ground and fight next week, where it's ok to have sin, the perfect heart has sin and sin doesn't matter after the war, because it was for god.

I'd say Yoda was wiser: Don't fear the Sodomites. Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to suffering.

/e also, for the record: Don't bomb churches. ^^

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Feb 3 2021 03:39pm
Quote (Jesus_Lives @ Feb 3 2021 04:30pm)
I don't see the connection. Maybe you can explain it to me.




Matthew 27:25

All the people answered, "his blood is on us and on our children!"

This passage led to antisemitism in the Roman Catholic Church until as recently as 50 years ago
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Feb 3 2021 03:39pm
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I just walked outside and screamed "fuck fags kill em all" and now i am just sad at the gay person who will be hurt.


you know you don't have a good argument when you have to strawman 'anti-LGBT rhetoric leads to violence' as 'every single bigoted statement is immediately followed by a physically violent reaction'. LGBTQ members have been discriminated against in various forms and to various degrees forever, and are still disproportionally targeted by all forms of violence across the globe, and the dehumanising rhetoric against them is an integral part in facilitating that. just because SOME western societies have made SOME progress towards equality doesn't mean the statement isn't true. only your hacky misrepresentation of it, and only in some places - and the US as a whole certainly isn't one of those...

https://www.hrc.org/press-releases/new-fbi-hate-crimes-report-shows-increases-in-anti-lgbtq-attacks
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Feb 3 2021 03:42pm
Quote (Cowaz @ Feb 3 2021 03:39pm)
Matthew 27:25

All the people answered, "his blood is on us and on our children!"

This passage led to antisemitism in the Roman Catholic Church until as recently as 50 years ago


Someone twisting scripture to justify killing is different than the Bible commanding someone to put specific people to death.

Catholics are not Baptists. Baptists hold the Bible to be the ultimate authority.
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Feb 3 2021 03:43pm
Quote (InsaneBobb @ Feb 2 2021 09:25pm)
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“We don’t advocate Christians to go out and be vigilantes,” and kill gay people, he said, according to the center. “We want the government to do it.”


See what's quoted? “We don’t advocate Christians to go out and be vigilantes, we want the government to do it.”


That's pretty much a distinction without a difference. They're still openly advocating for the killing of LGBTQ+ persons because of who they are.
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Feb 3 2021 03:45pm
Quote (Knoppie @ Feb 3 2021 03:35pm)
Yes, didn't want to cut that part out for other objective viewers. The rest is a full out war speech, It's a complete brainwash to stand ground and fight next week, where it's ok to have sin, the perfect heart has sin and sin doesn't matter after the war, because it was for god.

I'd say Yoda was wiser: Don't fear the Sodomites. Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to suffering.

/e also, for the record: Don't bomb churches. ^^


He keeps reminding the listeners that it is spiritual not physical.
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Feb 3 2021 03:46pm
I think most people can live with dishonouring one power tripping loser, aka god.
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Feb 3 2021 03:49pm
Quote (Jesus_Lives @ Feb 3 2021 10:45pm)
He keeps reminding the listeners that it is spiritual not physical.


I wish that were to be true, instead he focuses on how okey it is to sin...
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