Quote (Thor123422 @ Jan 31 2021 05:04pm)

What do you mean by "viable life"? A mole is just as viable even if it doesn't turn into a "normal" human. It's got its own DNA, often its own organs, teeth, hair, etc. What's the separating factor that leads you to say one is "viable" and the other isn't?

Suppose the fetus would be born but live in pain and never live past 5 years old? Is that viable? I think you would say yes. So where is the line drawn where something is "viable"?

The answer you will inevitably dance around but won't admit is that one has a brain and develops consciousness and the other doesn't.

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Molar pregnancy
Also called: hydatidiform mole
A noncancerous tumor that develops in the uterus as a result of a nonviable pregnancy.

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From a clinical perspective, a viable pregnancy is one in which the baby can be born and have a reasonable chance of survival. By contrast, a nonviable pregnancy is one in which the fetus or baby has no chance of being born alive.

Quote (Thor123422 @ Jan 31 2021 05:25pm)

At that point the safest way to "abort" the fetus is just to induce birth and take care of it. Happens pretty frequently when there's complications.

Quote (Kayeto @ 1 Feb 2021 02:33)

How come there is so much discussion about what to do with unwanted pregnancies once we have them, but very little discussion on how to prevent unwanted pregnancies in the first place?

Unwanted pregnancies are a problem, regardless how they turn out. Terminating an unwanted pregnancy does not solve the problem. In fact, it might even proliferate the root problem, since easy access to termination means that people have less incentive to avoid creating the problem.

I'm not against some discussion about what to do about unwanted pregnancies once we have them. I just wonder why there is no discussion about how to address the root problem.

Quote (ReturnFormer @ Jan 31 2021 08:44pm)

thats an induction not an abortion. abortion, by definition, means killing the fetus. i dont think anyone is against inducing when theres complications. the issue is late term abortions, when you could have induced or done something else.

Quote (Kayeto @ Jan 31 2021 05:33pm)

How come there is so much discussion about what to do with unwanted pregnancies once we have them, but very little discussion on how to prevent unwanted pregnancies in the first place?

Unwanted pregnancies are a problem, regardless how they turn out. Terminating an unwanted pregnancy does not solve the problem. In fact, it might even proliferate the root problem, since easy access to termination means that people have less incentive to avoid creating the problem.

I'm not against some discussion about what to do about unwanted pregnancies once we have them. I just wonder why there is no discussion about how to address the root problem.

Quote (Handcuffs @ Jan 31 2021 09:10pm)

It's because the most-effective strategies for reducing unwanted pregnancy are overwhelmingly opposed by people who are anti-abortion.

Quote (ReturnFormer @ Jan 31 2021 07:37pm)

its pretty straightforward:

a nonviable pregnancy always leads to miscarriage, a viable pregnancy will usually lead to a baby. consciousness may usually be a difference, but that is not the defining difference.

my guess is youre just parroting liberal talking points without actually knowing what they mean.

a viable pregnancy is human life from the time it becomes viable, which would be fertilization/implantation. the usual circumstance from that point is to be born as a baby. a non-viable pregnancy is no different than any other clump of cells - it has zero chance of being born as a baby.

Quote (EndlessSky @ Jan 31 2021 06:34pm)

Biggest abortion-reducing measures would be abolishing divorce and welfare.

Crybaby lib T’s complain whenever they hear it though.

Quote (Handcuffs @ Jan 31 2021 08:52pm)

Actually the biggest reducing measure would be to be gay, but you faggots can't stop breeding.

Quote (Handcuffs @ Jan 31 2021 09:52pm)

Actually the biggest reducing measure would be to be gay, but you faggots can't stop breeding.