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Oct 15 2020 07:52am
Quote (IgoSoHard @ Oct 15 2020 08:33am)
The usual deflection from the usual suspects. Joe Biden’s son smokes crack, sO wHaT, tRuMp WoRkEd oN wAlLsTrEeT iN tHe 80s, It’s selective outrage. They’ll cry about one of Trump’s kids coming out with a book, & in the same breathe ignore a foreign nation paying the son of the VP millions of dollars for access to his father. Imagine if one of Trump’s sons was paid millions of dollars from an energy company in a country that he’s never been to, doesn’t speak the language, & has literally zero experience in said field, all to gain access to his father. The same father who said he never discussed any of this with his son, which we now know is a blatant lie. If this was (R) Trump & not (D) Biden the left would be torrentially crying about it, however it’s not Trump, so they deflect & minimize.


Not selective outrage lol

I've never been outraged about Trump doing coke. Honestly it should probably be legal.
Even if we assume the issue is 100% true, Trump bringing his family into the white house the way he has still outshines this in terms of nepotism by a country mile.
Trump takes millions of dollars in foreign money every year in the most clear violation of the emoluments clause in our nation's history, so even if we assume it's all true Trump is still worse.



Basically, even if we assume all of this is 100% real, then Trump is still worse than Biden. Even at his worst, and this may well be his worst, Biden is still better than Trump in every way.
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Oct 15 2020 07:54am
Quote (Goomshill @ Oct 15 2020 08:48am)
But its okay for Joe Biden's campaign to keep tweeting :santa:



afaik most of this is outside american jurisdiction
there's very little in the way of foreign anti-corruption clauses- the ones rarely enforced and nebulous at best- to prosecute americans for corruption in sovereign nations
it would be the responsibility of those governments to enforce their own laws
and Joe Biden helped overthrow that government and replace it with his own people
and when the top prosecutor looked at his son, Joe Biden forced him out by withholding foreign aid and his handpicked replacement used his powers of discretion to no longer investigate burisma and biden


What is the DoJ supposed to do here? No court has claimed novel jurisdiction over something so far outside their wheelhouse since either the Nuremberg Trials or the ICC


Should we look at all these other Democrats Trump rails against? Where are their charges?

I'm not saying their innocent at all. Im just saying Trump doesn't condemn his own people. To me that isn't a leader. Most of you don't condemn your own people. Which makes you look foolish and honestly is the biggest reason no one believes Republicans when they say Democrats broke the law. Because they are openly hypocritical and everyone can see tbat

Anyone want to place bets the deficit suddenly becomes a huge issue for the GOP and no more stimulus for people or states once Biden takes over?

This post was edited by MizzouFTW on Oct 15 2020 07:55am
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Oct 15 2020 07:56am
Quote (EndlessSky @ 15 Oct 2020 08:10)
That makes it the Democrat Governor's fault.

not surprised that user doesn’t understand federalism and blames Jewish people for covid. what an awful anti-semite
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lol!!! so much for jack dorsey’s fake apology

https://mobile.twitter.com/jack/status/1316528193621327876?

like i posted before if they just let people spam tweet this link like say, the thousands of other stories with sourcing from “senior sources with familiarity of the thinking of those involved in the matter” it’d be your usual 1-2 day story then on to the next one

but alas twitter and fb think this is a story better served for everyone to see :lol:
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Oct 15 2020 07:58am
i am glad that trumptards started caring about corruption and nepotism all of a sudden. boy will they be mad when they find out about their cult leader... oh, wait...
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Oct 15 2020 08:01am
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i am glad that trumptards started caring about corruption and nepotism all of a sudden. boy will they be mad when they find out about their cult leader... oh, wait...


I'm enjoying the outrage aimed at twitter..
aren't they a private company allowed to do whatever they want? YES
hey GOP!
Go use different platform if you don't like it.. :rofl:
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Oct 15 2020 08:03am
Quote (Goomshill @ Oct 15 2020 09:48am)
But its okay for Joe Biden's campaign to keep tweeting :santa:



afaik most of this is outside american jurisdiction
there's very little in the way of foreign anti-corruption clauses- the ones rarely enforced and nebulous at best- to prosecute americans for corruption in sovereign nations
it would be the responsibility of those governments to enforce their own laws
and Joe Biden helped overthrow that government and replace it with his own people
and when the top prosecutor looked at his son, Joe Biden forced him out by withholding foreign aid and his handpicked replacement used his powers of discretion to no longer investigate burisma and biden


What is the DoJ supposed to do here? No court has claimed novel jurisdiction over something so far outside their wheelhouse since either the Nuremberg Trials or the ICC


Tweets are for twits.


Quote (excellence @ Oct 15 2020 09:56am)
not surprised that user doesn’t understand federalism and blames Jewish people for covid. what an awful anti-semite

lol!!! so much for jack dorsey’s fake apology

https://mobile.twitter.com/jack/status/1316528193621327876

like i posted before if they just let people spam tweet this link like say, the thousands of other stories with sourcing from “senior sources with familiarity of the thinking of those involved in the matter” it’d be your usual 1-2 day story then on to the next one

but alas twitter and fb think this is a story better served for everyone to see :lol:


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This post was edited by Skinned on Oct 15 2020 08:07am
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Oct 15 2020 08:09am
Quote (fender @ Oct 15 2020 09:58am)
i am glad that trumptards started caring about corruption and nepotism all of a sudden. boy will they be mad when they find out about their cult leader... oh, wait...


Should I tell him that Russia collusion was a conspiracy theory? Or is that to cruel for him?
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Oct 15 2020 08:11am
I mean we really trod the ground of the biden/burisma scandal at least twice over the past 2 years, a year ago this same time, no? I remember pointing out then how what is being shown is above the law, not breaking it. If you use a gun to threaten someone to give you their money, you're a criminal. If you use your control of the nation to threaten a country to give you their money, what are you?

There have been overreaching prosecutors and vague statutes and creative jurisprudence to let the DoJ go after international citizens for their actions outside our jurisdiction before. After all, we're trying to lock up a swedish journalist in london for his reporting. But if we need to ask why an AG isn't roleplaying Beria and twisting the law to persecute his political opponents, maybe that says more about the question
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Oct 15 2020 08:15am
Quote (Goomshill @ Oct 15 2020 08:24am)
I mean lets follow this hypothetical
There's such a gigantic amount of verifiable evidence that we'd have to assume that 'most' of it is real
but we could suppose that they took a few lies and sprinkled them into thousands of truths
That's exactly what democrats said back in 2016 in an attempt to diminish and deflect from the DNC emails: The media was shouting that the russians could have faked some of them and stuck them into a server full of real ones
well it turned out in that case, nope, not a single one was fake
but if we were to suppose that here, then all we'd have to do is narrowly focus on the few notable emails and examine whether they have any flaws or signs of fabrication
but there's nothing to indicate that

We've got a perfectly explicable chain of custody, we've got a whole bunch of emails and pictures we can examine ourselves, and the FBI has had possession of the hard drive for a year- and they don't say its fake or point out any such flaws


ELI5 what specifically Joe Biden did while in office to help out Burisma. im in need of that timeline to even begin to respond. currently im in the it could totally be edited and if it wasnt it doesnt change anything camp. the biggest scoop here seems to be that Hunter had a crack pipe in his mouth.
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Oct 15 2020 08:33am
Quote (thesnipa @ Oct 15 2020 09:15am)
ELI5 what specifically Joe Biden did while in office to help out Burisma. im in need of that timeline to even begin to respond. currently im in the it could totally be edited and if it wasnt it doesnt change anything camp. the biggest scoop here seems to be that Hunter had a crack pipe in his mouth.


Biden/Obama era US and EU ran support for a pro-western coup in Ukraine to overthrow the lawful president after he made overtures towards moscow
They installed western agents (even a literal CIA head) to take over the operations of displaced oligarchs and take their wealth for themselves
When the lead prosecutor was still vaguely Russian-aligned with the backing of the old oligarchs, and started to investigate the new western oligarchs-
that was when Joe Biden flew to Ukraine, told their US-backed president they need to fire that prosecutor and install someone favorable to him, or he'd withhold $1 billion in foreign aid, and well son of a bitch, he got fired within an hour
Eric Ciaramella was the top policy guy on Ukraine working for Joe Biden on that trip
Years later Trump asked that same Ukrainian president to ask his people to look into what Joe Biden did and get to the bottom of it
Eric Ciaramella spied on that diplomatic call and then leaked it Democrats to spark the impeachment narrative.
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