This is where the conversation started:



This is what you quoted. I understand for you everything is about Trump, but beyond the concerning stuff specifically as it relates to him, the article is also relevant because it shows how our system can work.

My characterization is that there's concerning information in the article, I never called it scandalous. There's already been multiple issues brought forward... Black mentioned a few. Why would I spend time listing several other obvious ones just to get a "nothing matters" post from the bots?




First off... are we really at a point in America where supposed billionaires paying nothing is normalized? You guys pretend to be part of the populist right... I understand this is an inconvenient story because it's Trump, but the hand-waving away is kind of pathetic.

Romney paid an effective rate of about 14%. Romney wasn't going into the election with hundreds of millions of dollars come due during his term. He wasn't hiding his tax returns from the American people, after promising to release them years earlier. He didn't(to my knowledge) pay one of his kids(who was already employed at the company) as a consultant to write it off. He didn't have a multi-million dollar federal tax dispute. Etc etc. It's not the same situation by any stretch.



https://twitter.com/TVietor08/status/1310345233742266368



This post was edited by IceMage on Sep 28 2020 06:28am

Thing is, it doesn't have to take years. There have been, and are new eDiscovery legal products on the market for public/private legal practitioners to use. Were talking about things were an entire email ledger spanning years can be loaded/parsed/analyzed, or any other business documentation. Historically, it seems it would take years, but in recent decades its a bit of a 'smell' of corruption/deficiency in our legal system. Speaking from a US POV.

Trump should post his birth certificate to troll

Is it a realistic expectation of Trump that he pay more in taxes that legally necessary? Of course not, it's not a realistic expectation of anyone. If Romney or Trump or Bezos or whoever was paying more in taxes than necessary, their accountant(s) would be fired for incompetence.

If Trump broke the law, and is (illegally) paying less than he owes, then that's a very serious matter. But criticizing Trump for not electing to write the government an unnecessarily big cheque is ridiculous.

What is what the GOP and their love of actors and entertainers? Reagan, they loved that Fred Thompson guy, and this guy plays a business man on reality TV.

Who does he owe all that money to?

This post was edited by Skinned on Sep 28 2020 07:36am

The problem is that it was perfectly legal for a billionaire to pay so little in taxes to begin with. Average joes are doing more to support americans via taxes than the billionaire class who've succeeded in making it legal for them to pay so little. Are you against the idea of rich folks paying their fair share?

Seriously , just pay something lol

Don’t see how actual tax payers ok with this premise. Bezos and zuck at least provides a shit ton of jobs to the country. To lump trump into this demographic is absurd because he has never run a stable profitable business. Rather just sham company to sham company, even his most desperate supporters don’t defend trump steaks, trump airlines, trump university, etc

This post was edited by Bazi on Sep 28 2020 07:49am

*Polls tighten

*Leaks from AnOnYmOuS sOuRcEs

*IRS - Nothing illegal happening here

*Left - B-B-B-BUT!

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Should billionaires pay more in taxes ? Absolutely, however this is an issue with the tax code, not President Trump

pale pasty privileged lefties are gonna revive the wealth tax argument now. if they cant get you on income they’ll get you on wealth and assets. that $4T tax increase being put forward isnt finna pay for itself.

prepare to be forced to sell your stocks my friends if this happens.

so much obsession with other people’s money. it really is a sickness

This post was edited by excellence on Sep 28 2020 07:51am

thats probably never going to happen because studies have shown rich people wanting something has a significant influence over legislation whereas something that you or i may want doesn't make a difference no matter how many of us there are