Like I said, we would need to wait and see the the results. Depending on the results that's not a bad thing.

We could also make that change in 10 years. Gay acceptance went from virtually non-existent in 2000 to the majority opinion in 2010 and now the default position in 2020.

let's wait and see isn't an argument, its delaying an argument lol. we can wait and see if studies come out that black people are predisposed to violence, or wait to see studies on white people being worse at swimming, or w/e. nor does it address silencing around studies perceived as anti trans. nor does it address parent's rights being superseded by something that doesnt reduce harm, simply reduces risk, according to studies with an agenda.

but lol at the last part, kids are still gonna make fun of gay kids and trans kids 50 years from now. come on, we both know that. we're talking puberty blockers here, not something for college age kids, which also get mocked for being gay/trans now despite it being the "default".

He isn’t being given spiro.


Also, he isn’t an innocent child if he’s in prison for raping someone.

The trans kids at my daughters school didn't seem to be treated poorly.

if i went to school with 100 other kids and 90 of them were perfectly accepting and nice the 10 who mocked me would still give me issues. i think we've just moved the 90 and the 10, and i dont see a way to crack 10%. 10% of any population are complete assholes, bullies, etc.

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The fact that the parents are bringing this suit should tell you that they are legal guardians no? Scary fucking world we're coming to when bureaucrats could be in charge of deciding whether a kid is okay to be a boy or if we don't like his behavior lets make him more female like.

And @bolded, naw dawg. That's only part of the issue, the other that you keep pivoting away from is the fact that they administered a experimental 'treatment' one that's not supported by science for ODD. There is no 'well it depends' here. Doctors, social workers, lawyers don't get to just make shit up as they go contrary to science or established treatment procedures just because they have the winds of leftists sjw politics at their back.

No one has said otherwise lol. These people deserve to lose whatever license they have, their job, and maybe face criminal charges depending on what the law is. We're just piling on Goom because he clearly jumped the gun on this.

Its gonna be an interesting time to be alive when the sjws silencing dissenting thought in the medical community and academia mobilize child protection sevices to pull kids away from parents to bolster the army of the trans.

This could be a michael bay movie.

They want to make it an 'informed consent' issue to avoid talking about how inherently wrong it is to torture children based off some wild social/political theory dressed up under the pretenses of medical science. As if they're the first generation of social crusaders to ever have this hubris and they'll get it right this time. Hedging posts to avoid saying that using gender transition as a treatment for ODD is wrong even if the DMS-V and leading experts say it has no basis- because in a few years, it very well might be the new "accepted" standard, at least in Californian groupthink. All it takes is a few intrepid scientists willing to push boundaries and conduct social experiments and they can pave the way, even if they're paving over a few mutilated children.

We long since left behind the concepts of bodily integrity and natural development being sacrosanct and have no qualms about selectively editing the hippocratic oath. Now "consent" is just a minor bump in the road to be trod over by saying the will of a child and parents don't matter, its up to government authorities to make determinations what is best for your body. And Thor wants to see the results from the Mengele experiments to determine whether forcibly feminizing a pubescent boy with gender transition drugs is an effective way to turn rebelliousness and defiance into meekness and compliance.