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Jul 20 2020 12:58pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ Jul 19 2020 06:15pm)
Can you show me a fringe idea from the left that got mainstream acceptance in the last 60 years that wasn't a pretty good thing? Seems like all the fringe ideas that suck get discarded, and the ones that are great like gay marriage get accepted and propagated. This is basically the same everywhere. "Music was better in the old days" because nobody remembers the shit. Well, the idea that the political ideas were better in the old days goes through the same process.

Like I've said before, the ideal function of the left and the right is as a contrasting force of change and stability. The left should be throwing out as many ideas as possible, while the right helps weed out bad ones.


Affirmative action is anti asian (the acceptable kind of discrimination to liberals) and isn't so great

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Quote (thesnipa @ Jul 20 2020 01:41pm)
its funny how much u guys rag on right wingers for their inter-sectional connections, but when confronted with yours you deflect then call the person dishonest lol.

i guess i'd rather be "triggered" than trying to run from the idea that equality of outcomes is a goal of the left. just make sure to stretch before doing those kind of mental gymnastics or you might pull something.


Not reading the conversation for content

Insults

Accusing others of the gymnastics you are doing

I really hope youre trying to imitate cam because youre doing a great job
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Jul 20 2020 01:21pm
thor getting intellectually worked like a speedbag by lefts and rights so he blames cam, lmfao
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Jul 20 2020 01:54pm
Quote (Leevee @ Jul 20 2020 01:54pm)
He’s right though. People are so adverse to reaching compromise and learning from each other, they’ll defend their own wing’s tropes so strongly that they end up radicalising themselves.


yup basically all i was saying, but if u call out cowardise it's an easy out for someone who doesnt want to have the "hard talks" they prescribe for others and they claim it's ad hom. ironically while trying to use cam against me as an ad hom.

o well, i thought black's list was a BAD list for what leftists openly advocate for, but a GOOD list for what their fringe offers up and they refuse to snuff out. listening to ideas and giving them credence isn't the same thing, and when ideas are bad ones they shouldn't be given credence.

someone who says winking at a woman is sexual assault that should be prosecuted by law is no more or less dangerous than someone saying interracial marriage should be illegal. one's just fashionable to try and cancel someone for because it's dated, new ideas can be just as dumb.

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yup basically all i was saying, but if u call out cowardise it's an easy out for someone who doesnt want to have the "hard talks" they prescribe for others and they claim it's ad hom. ironically while trying to use cam against me as an ad hom.

o well, i thought black's list was a BAD list for what leftists openly advocate for, but a GOOD list for what their fringe offers up and they refuse to snuff out. listening to ideas and giving them credence isn't the same thing, and when ideas are bad ones they shouldn't be given credence.

someone who says winking at a woman is sexual assault that should be prosecuted by law is no more or less dangerous than someone saying interracial marriage should be illegal. one's just fashionable to try and cancel someone for because it's dated, new ideas can be just as dumb.


Which wasn't what I asked for him to list.

Go back and read the conversation lol, because not reading the context and harping about details that don't need to exist is what you're doing, and it's a move Cam does frequently. I'm comparing you to Cam because you were acting like Cam, not saying your arguments are wrong because you were acting like Cam.

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Which wasn't what I asked for him to list.

Go back and read the conversation lol, because not reading the context and harping about details that don't need to exist is what you're doing, and it's a move Cam does frequently. I'm comparing you to Cam because you were acting like Cam, not saying your arguments are wrong because you were acting like Cam.


i couldn't have been more clear, but perhaps a timeline will help

you: hurka durka

black: libbies like da extreme stuffs

you: name me list

black: list

you: hehehe we dont like that hehe

me: that's just a cowards way of avoiding the pandering your side does to extremists to form an intersection to garner votes. not unlike how the right panders to white supremicists and the KKK even though their ideas arent on the official platform

you: hehe u mad, hehe u cam, hehe hehe



but sure, frame the conversation with no nuance in a way that makes your side look best. i figured id at least get a response on how left and right pandering is different, how pandering to purple haired xers is better morally than the proud boys, or some other unconvincing drivel with no self reflection or recognition of bias. a participation trophy at least. didnt expect u to walk out after the opening kick off, let alone as weakly as "you must have irl problems" lol.

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i couldn't have been more clear, but perhaps a timeline will help

you: hurka durka

black: libbies like da extreme stuffs

you: name me list

black: list

you: hehehe we dont like that hehe

me: that's just a cowards way of avoiding the pandering your side does to extremists to form an intersection to garner votes. not unlike how the right panders to white supremicists and the KKK even though their ideas arent on the official platform

you: hehe u mad, hehe u cam, hehe hehe

but sure, frame the conversation with no nuance in a way that makes your side look best. i figured id at least get a response on how left and right pandering is different, how pandering to purple haired xers is better morally than the proud boys, or some other unconvincing drivel with no self reflection or recognition of bias. a participation trophy at least. didnt expect u to walk out after the opening kick off, let alone as weakly as "you must have irl problems" lol.


Okay Cam

Quote (duffman316 @ Jul 20 2020 01:58pm)
Affirmative action is anti asian (the acceptable kind of discrimination to liberals) and isn't so great


Affirmative action definitely needs to be addressed in the details. The history of Asian discrimination and then active effort to recruit as many technically capable Asians as possible to immigrate to America is an interesting history.

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Jul 20 2020 02:13pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ Jul 20 2020 03:05pm)
Okay Cam



Affirmative action definitely needs to be addressed in the details. The history of Asian discrimination and then active effort to recruit as many technically capable Asians as possible to immigrate to America is an interesting history.


so you feel the left has no issues with inter-sectional politics tainting the parties platform by needing to pander to the fringes?

i can walk you all the way to the finish line if you're willing to walk across and grab your participation trophy. maybe u need to be asked yes/no questions one at a time Ghot style.
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Quote (thesnipa @ Jul 20 2020 03:13pm)
so you feel the left has no issues with inter-sectional politics tainting the parties platform by needing to pander to the fringes?

i can walk you all the way to the finish line if you're willing to walk across and grab your participation trophy. maybe u need to be asked yes/no questions one at a time Ghot style.


We can talk when youre willing to actually talk. You have been acting like a triggered vagina from your first post so discussion won't be fruitful right now.
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Jul 20 2020 02:25pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ Jul 20 2020 03:21pm)
We can talk when youre willing to actually talk. You have been acting like a triggered vagina from your first post so discussion won't be fruitful right now.


Quote (Thor123422 @ Jul 19 2020 06:53pm)
Most of those aren't main stream, and I'd bet you don't actually understand what the rest even mean, and beyond that some are just immature name calling that demonstrate you aren't approach this topic honestly, and I'll bold the two I mean specifically.


dont act like a snarky bitch if u cant take being called a coward lmao.

"I'd bet you don't actually understand what the rest even mean", ok Karen. that was just an immature dodge to avoid problems your side has with intersectionality. now you're using my supposed anger to justify running. if im mad i should be easier to pick apart logically. i frankly love when someone's mad they fall over their keyboard.
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