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Jul 9 2020 04:40pm
Quote (thundercock @ Jul 9 2020 02:07pm)
I don't think the media is trying to influence Afghanistan policy. I do think that they jumped the gun in releasing contents. I'm not a fan of releasing intelligence, no matter how credible, because the American people don't have the capacity to evaluate it properly. It's almost certainly true that Russia paid the Taliban to kill US troops. But so what? The President is between a rock and a hard place on that one. Sanctions are probably appropriate but if the President doesn't want to do that, that's his prerogative. I do think Congress has a right to investigate the intelligence behind closed doors and they should.


Pulling out of Afghanistan etc always boosts morale before an election. Now if Trump does it the media will rerun these headlines as confirmation bias. It should be obvious by now given the current state of the media.
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Jul 9 2020 05:04pm
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Pulling out of Afghanistan etc always boosts morale before an election. Now if Trump does it the media will rerun these headlines as confirmation bias. It should be obvious by now given the current state of the media.


all troops should be out of the middle east.
we are not at war with anyone. It's putting soldiers in harms way for no reason besides $$$
one of the few things I have agreed with trump on.
BUT he is even a failure on getting them out.
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Jul 9 2020 06:57pm
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all troops should be out of the middle east.
we are not at war with anyone. It's putting soldiers in harms way for no reason besides $$$
one of the few things I have agreed with trump on.
BUT he is even a failure on getting them out.


He has constantly said he wants out everyone out by the end of this year. The Pentagon is to blame for this slow process. They did the same thing with Obama.
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Jul 9 2020 07:09pm
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He has constantly said he wants out everyone out by the end of this year. The Pentagon is to blame for this slow process. They did the same thing with Obama.


Almost like you can't leave a power vacuum without causing more problems than you started with.
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Jul 9 2020 07:50pm
Quote (fuzzy159 @ Jul 9 2020 08:57pm)
He has constantly said he wants out everyone out by the end of this year. The Pentagon is to blame for this slow process. They did the same thing with Obama.


Trump cannot fail, he can only be failed.
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Jul 9 2020 07:58pm
Quote (IceMage @ Jul 9 2020 08:50pm)
Trump cannot fail, he can only be failed.


The party of personal responsibility cant stop making excuses.

Nevermind that politics is about negotiating, rallying support, and compromise.
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Jul 9 2020 08:55pm
Quote (IceMage @ Jul 9 2020 06:50pm)
Trump cannot fail, he can only be failed.


its like orange jesus
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Jul 9 2020 09:16pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ Jul 9 2020 09:09pm)
Almost like you can't leave a power vacuum without causing more problems than you started with.



Power vacuum was there 20* years ago before we got in.

Most empires implode because they become overstretched the US is no different.

I’m not sure when Democrats became the party of arguing for large standing armies all across the globe and giving the US taxpayer the bill. We have 200,000 soldiers abroad. That’s an outrageous amount. The era of being the worlds police man needs to come to an end.

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Jul 9 2020 09:22pm
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Power vacuum was there 20* years ago before we got in.

Most empires implode because they become overstretched the US is no different.

I’m not sure when Democrats became the party of arguing for large standing armies all across the globe and giving the US taxpayer the bill. We have 200,000 soldiers abroad. That’s an outrageous amount. The era of being the worlds police man needs to come to an end.


Then we need to eradicate the entire Chinese and Russian population.
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Jul 9 2020 09:24pm
Quote (ofthevoid @ Jul 9 2020 11:16pm)
Power vacuum was there 20* years ago before we got in.

Most empires implode because they become overstretched the US is no different.

I’m not sure when Democrats became the party of arguing for large standing armies all across the globe and giving the US taxpayer the bill. We have 200,000 soldiers abroad. That’s an outrageous amount. The era of being the worlds police man needs to come to and end.


Probably with Harry Truman. Both parties support projecting power all over the world because it's kind of a fringe position that it hasn't worked out for our benefit.
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