i was a boy scout, i can tell you that you never tie a noose unless you need that loop to tighten around something. from a functional standpoint its worse. as u pull the noose tightens on your hand. once the door is down you then have to shimmy it off your knuckles. you'd be better off by far with a loop or just straight rope, thus 95%+ of garage pulls are straight ropes, only a small % are loops, and only 1 is a noose. 1. 1 single garage pull is a noose.



you were up in the crows nest with a bottle of rum looking for icebergs right?

This post was edited by thesnipa on Jun 26 2020 10:21am

I worked in the Airframes shop on the USS Ranger. Aircraft structural repair. Not a lot of use of ropes/lines.

just duct tape?

Speed tape. Duct tape doesn't hold well at Mach 2.

>Knowing

No one keeps track of such trivialities. I guess the admin in charge assigning garages didn't get the memo to check pull handles and other random shit because in 2020 literally everything is racist and there's racists around every corner and we need to be hyper sensitive.

The climate is the problem and how reflexive everyone has become. To call 15 FBI agents for this is the height of snowflakery and dumbfuckery.

Can vouch. If I wanted decorative, I would have put a monkey's fist on the end of the line, and I would use a bowline for its functionality.

i would assume there is an inspection with a checklist, confirm garage door works, and many other things. NASCAR events are huge, the team is bringing in million dollar cars, hundreds of thousands in tools and equipment, etc.

if out of 1600 or so garages there's one single instance of a garage pull tied into a noose and only a few small number of non-noose loops you'd think it could have stood out. im not saying its inherently suspicious, just thinking out loud.

15 FBI agents were likely called in because this could present a more serious threat. a noose in a random garage out in the wild doesnt even get a serious police report. when it could be a threat of someone killing a celebrity of sorts its a bit more serious. plus the FBI could have been requested by NASCAR just as a way to outsource the investigation and avoid scrutiny. there must be 10,000 FBI agents in the USA, 15 stopping by a track for a few days really isnt a big time issue to me.

The noose had some functional use. It was the size for a hand to go thru and pull down the door. You guys debating if it's the most efficient knot or not is besides the point, it doesn't take away from the fact that it had some utility.

A noose in the middle of the garage thrown over a beam above this guys car? Sure, i could see how that's problematic and warranting attention. A hand sized noose of a rope to pull down doors? That's been there since 2019? Seriously?

the noose having some functionality doesnt debunk it being potentially racist, nor does the fact that it's a noose prove it is racist.

i mean, im being as loose as i can here. saying we'll never know, saying i dont think it was an attack on Bubba specifically, etc. we just have very few facts, and we're not likely to get more facts, so we're discussing the few things we have. i dont really understand why you're taking such a hard stance, oh wait nvm you're clearly addled by anything you label as snowflake behavior and then you draw a line in the sand. the world isnt binary, some times people overreact and it turns out to be not as bad as they first thought, but still you can take away some things from it.

when you have 1600 garage stalls and 1 has a noose and that 1 noose happens to be in the garage of a driver who is half black and has been the target of online scrutiny for his "i cant breathe" shirt and a BLM sticker on his car, it does read as a bit too convenient to just be happenstance. the fact that it was likely happenstance, BUT that online people were racist towards him before the FBI released their report is a takeaway.

This is actually pretty simple the other way: you have to go out of your way and make extra effort to make a pull handle look like a noose. It can't NOT be intentional. Maybe it wasn't targeted, sure. But it sure as hell was put there by a moron all the same. This can't be stressed enough: you don't use fucking nooses as decorations.