The video already had a 'manipulated media tag' before Twitter did it, it was watermarked by CarpeDonktum
Are you looking forward to a society where satire is banned?

banned seems a bit disingenuous. labelled.

10 years ago i'd have called that insane. in 2020 tho i understand how many people require a "/s" label, i understand how many people eat the onion, i understand how few people know what entertainment is compared to facts and news.

the internet killed a part of communication that these measures try to correct. people are far more likely to seek out and then share their biases uncritically in this polarized environment. and let's be honest, a lot of grandmas out there legit require a satire tag. they want the idea of a DNC senator calling for transgender children's bathroom dress up with adult safe spaces to be real.

Hard to say. Trump has done a few things to cater to them. The "good people on both sides" was referencing the Nazi rally the day before the Confederate rally conservatives pretends the comments were about. He pretended not to know David Duke for days so he could avoid having to condemn him.

I think hes fine catering to anybody he thinks will vote for him even in bad taste, even if this specific one isn't actually that.

No, he didn't. He was pretty specific.

The white nationalists held a rally the day before the statue rally, and Trump specifically denounced them.

i think you're just being WAY too loose with your terms. Charlottesville wasn't a Nazi rally. it was a cocktail, nazis, KKK, proud boys, white supremacists without an organization, and good ol fashioned republicans showing up because they heard something called "unite the right" was happening and they hoped floats would toss out candy.

i think there's also a hard line between "fails to condemn" and "actively signals in campaign ads with secret symbols". thats a leap up.

Charlottesville was multiple rallies across different days. The rally that was before Trump's comments was specifically a Neo-Nazi rally.

so i ran that back in my head, didnt source the thing, but after reading Goom's quote i'd say i pretty much still agree with my post. and Trump was even more critical of nazis than i remembered. the "good people on both sides" is just a poor context headline were all remembering from mems.

I can post a more specific timeline later. I'm on my phone. But his good people on both sides comment was a walk back of an apology he did a few days before that, which was an apology for defending the specifically Neo-Nazi rally that have happened before that.

I'll get more details in a bit when I'm back to my computer

are you saying the quote above is inaccurate? or that you're referencing an entirely different quote? the above quote seems to have all the answers there. condemns bad actors on both sides, props up good actors on both sides.

to be specific, there was a white nationalist rally the night before the charlottesville rally, which included neonazis- it was Richard Spencers crowd, however you'd want to define them
then the next day there was a mainstream rally with a complete panoply of different factions present, mostly moderate republicans opposing taking down statues / confederate memorial supporters, but also proud boys and alt-right white nationalist LARPers, a few KKK and neo-nazis without organizations just blending into the crowd after the previous night, but also a big detachment of heavily armed libertarians LARPers acting as their own police force. While on the left there were full blown black bloc antifa, BLM brawlers and large crowds of moderate democrats counterprotesting. And of course, the cops, who suffered the most fatalities of any group that day.

its why you're able to have footage of a KKK guy shooting a BLM guy wielding a flamethrower, white nationalists chanting in the dark with tiki torches, guys with assault rifles and camo breaking up fights and defusing brawls, black guys ganging up on and beating an old white guy, a confederate history buff dressed up being jeered by a group of democrats as he honors his ancestors silently, and a conspicuous lack of media coverage of dead cops



Trump gave that statement after the main rally in charlottesville, and explicitly condemned the richard spencer rally from the previous night.
No matter how many times this lie gets repeated its not going to become any more true. Trump was pretty specific about condemning the neo-nazis and white supremacists while identifying the regular folks who just turned up to protest taking down a statue

This post was edited by Goomshill on Jun 19 2020 09:43am