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Mar 3 2020 11:01pm
alabama senate primary:

Jeff Sessions: 32.5%
Tommy Tuberville: 30.8%
Bradley Byrne: 27.3%
Roy Moore: 6.8%
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Mar 3 2020 11:16pm
Quote (thesnipa @ 4 Mar 2020 06:00)
I don't want what u describe as "actual change"

Someday yes. Rapidly tho? No.

I've made my position clear many times. A tepid biden term with little change is fine by me and fine for my family.


you said yourself that bernie wouldn't even be able to fully implement the majority of his policies (which i agreed on btw), so how would that be 'rapid' change? he would, however, make a start in trying to fix the underlying problem, which is the corporate ownership of american politics, which you also pretended to identify as the core problem in a previous post. so how does voting for biden types solve any of that, even 'someday'? that simply makes no sense. let me just fix that for you:

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I don't want actual change

So a tepid biden term is fine by me.


see? that way it's logically coherent, and you don't have to pretend that you cared about stuff like corporate owned politicians or universal healthcare anymore. and that is of course a perfectly valid stance to have, especially if it benefits you personally. i've said that before btw. the thing that i can't stand is people pretending to care about those things, but then still voting for politicians who are the embodiment of the opposite. all i'm saying is that you can't have it both ways...
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Quote (fender @ 4 Mar 2020 06:16)
you said yourself that bernie wouldn't even be able to fully implement the majority of his policies (which i agreed on btw), so how would that be 'rapid' change? he would, however, make a start in trying to fix the underlying problem, which is the corporate ownership of american politics, which you also pretended to identify as the core problem in a previous post. so how does voting for biden types solve any of that, even 'someday'? that simply makes no sense. let me just fix that for you:



see? that way it's logically coherent, and you don't have to pretend that you cared about stuff like corporate owned politicians or universal healthcare anymore. and that is of course a perfectly valid stance to have, especially if it benefits you personally. i've said that before btw. the thing that i can't stand is people pretending to care about those things, but then still voting for politicians who are the embodiment of the opposite. all i'm saying is that you can't have it both ways...


The only thing see with this one is a non stop "for me, me, mine, myself, good for me, I don't care because it's good for me"

Don't waste your time, praise Trump getting elected to fuck his own people.

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Quote (Saucisson6000 @ 4 Mar 2020 06:28)
The only thing see with this one is a non stop "for me, me, mine, myself, good for me, I don't care because it's good for me"

Don't waste your time, praise Trump getting elected to fuck his own people.


oh, for the most part i already agree, most of them clearly don't deserve any better - but on the other hand, i'm somewhat biased towards the younger generations, so i still have some sympathy for them getting screwed by the stupid, stubborn, and selfish.

also, the parts that directly affect us europeans are still by far the worst under a trump presidency: his science denial and general stance regarding climate change has a significant negative impact on the whole planet, as do his dangerous foreign policy blunders and unnecessary escalations for personal (anti-obama) reasons, and america's complete refusal to deal with the consequences under him, leaving that almost entirely up to europe. furthermore, his needless escalations of trade wars and sanctions, simply because he doesn't understand the basics concept of trade balances, also impacts us in a negative way - as does his childish understanding of military budgets and realistic military threats.

seeing dnc shills trying to put lipstick on the biden pig is both hilarious and disgusting, and makes me want to root against them, but considering the alternative... well, it's going to be trump anyway, there's no chance biden will win against him - and that alone tells you all you need to know about sloppy joe: probably the worst president in american history will mop the floor with him, hehe...

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oh, for the most part i already agree, most of them clearly don't deserve any better - but on the other hand, i'm somewhat biased towards the younger generations, so i still have some sympathy for them getting screwed by the stupid, stubborn, and selfish.

also, the parts that directly affects us as europeans are still by far the worst under a trump presidency: his science denial and general stance regarding climate change has a significant impact on the whole planet, as do his irrational and dangerous foreign policy blunders, and america's refusal to deal with their consequences, leaving that almost entirely up to europe. furthermore, his needless escalations of trade wars and sanctions, simply because he doesn't understand the basics concept of trade balances, also impacts us in a negative way - as does his childish understanding of military budgets and realistic military threats.

seeing dnc shills trying to put lipstick on the biden pig is both hilarious and disgusting, and makes me want to root against them, but considering the alternative... well, it's going to be trump anyway, there's no chance biden will win against him - and that alone tells you all you need to know about sloppy joe: probably the worst president in american history will mop the floor with him, hehe...


For sure it's disappointing for the young generation who really love its country instead of focusing on some disgusting systematic self centered crap.
Foreign policy would be toxic even with Biden.
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For sure it's disappointing for the young generation who really love its country instead of focusing on some disgusting systematic self centered crap.
Foreign policy would be toxic even with Biden.


fair enough, but he would certainly not unilaterally break a deal that effectively halted a nation's entire nuclear program just to spite his predecessor. also, trump's fascination with strong men and his bigoted views make him even less reliable for america's long standing allies, an more dangerous overall.

and the rest of it is still true. especially his stance on climate change, by far the most important global issue of our time, is devastating - both in direct environmental impact, as well as trying to form stable coalitions to combat it. and while biden won't exactly be good by any reasonable standard on that issue, he couldn't possibly be as bad as dump.
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Quote (fender @ 4 Mar 2020 07:12)
fair enough, but he would certainly not unilaterally break a deal that effectively halted a nation's entire nuclear program just to spite his predecessor. also, trump's fascination with strong men and his bigoted views make him even less reliable for america's long standing allies, an more dangerous overall.

and the rest of it is still true. especially his stance on climate change, by far the most important global issue of our time, is devastating - both in direct environmental impact, as well as trying to form stable coalitions to combat it. and while biden won't exactly be good by any reasonable standard on that issue, he couldn't possibly be as bad as dump.


Trump put incompetent people in charge and is weakening his country. I'd prefer a 100℅ bad but smaller US. Instead of a 75% bad, but still big.

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Trump put incompetent people in charge and is weakening his country. I'd prefer a 100℅ bad but smaller US. Instead of a 75% bad, but still big.


obviously a matter of opinion. i simply don't. i think the survival of our planet is more important than some well deserved karma for a shitty empire.
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Mar 4 2020 12:39am
Joe Biden projected winner in Texas by ~3-4%, but exit polling showing that votes cast today were something like +10-20% Biden, so Sander's only held the early vote.

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