The problem isn't boomers... the problem is the cost of drugs and medical help.


/e I had a minor heart attack a year ago. The bill was $56,000, for 24 hours in the hospital. They unblocked the right coronary artery... a tiny 1/8" diameter artery. If I only had SSD and Medicare to rely on, I'd be dead.
Fortunately, I was in the military for 7 years and get VA benefits. THEY paid the $56,000.


Again, the problem is the cost... not the boomers.

This post was edited by Ghot on Nov 1 2019 06:18am

You strongly oppose a socialised health system..
My father in law had a similar heart attack last year, his cost was $0.

I 100% agree, the drug costs and service costs are insane, even a basic X-ray service which hasn't been cutting edge tech for a looong time. Perhaps if the government covered a subset of services or preventative care then that might have a net benefit to the population and lower the specialized services/care people will still need. The boomers % needing increased medical services in my area is growing each year, I think it was 30+% last time I read, and they health services in the area are going to have a hard time scaling to that. Rural...

Also, glad you made it through. Been working on my heart health lately too, so hard to get a straight answer from clinic/insurance on billing before services rendered. Always a surprise bill after the fact, and insurance/clinic digital sites don't have a built in automated appeal, they make it hard as hell, snail mail or phone call wait forever. Conflict of interest between patient on the billing and both insurance/clinic.

This post was edited by RedFromWinter on Nov 1 2019 06:53am

Actually, I don't. What I DO oppose is putting one in place before figuring out how to pay for it. Same with free college. We have a passel of politicians running around promising things, without considering how to pay for them.
Just like Obamacare, even knowing there was no way to pay for it.

America and Australia are relatively the same age, but with 150x more people, we need to put a bit more consideration into massive changes.





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Yeah, as long as medical and food keep improving... more and more people are gonna live longer.

This post was edited by Ghot on Nov 1 2019 07:08am

You pay for it the same way you did medicaid and the same way we pay for our healthcare here..
As to prices, insurance and drug companies cause them, if you allow generics and the government is the largest consumer in the market prices will plummet.

Why does no one ask where the money comes from to drop multiple bombs on caves in afghanistan that cost $100,000 a pop??
Seems to me the only time people ask where money comes from is when it is for the benefit of the people.

This post was edited by Plaguefear on Nov 1 2019 07:24am

half the threads in this subforum turn into a drawn out shit-tier orchestra comprised of bunch of privileged lefties with nothing to else to do yelling at old boomer ghot who yells back

This post was edited by excellence on Nov 1 2019 07:29am

For the 57th time at least. A lot of the world can enjoy a relative freedom from the threat of danger to themselves... BECAUSE of the retaliatory threat afforded by the US.
It takes a LOT of money and manpower to BE that possible retaliatory threat.

One of the reasons that Trump wants the NATO countries to start spending on their own militaries, is to make it possible for OUR govt. to provide OUR citizens with some of the education and healthcare advantages other countries enjoy, without needing to tax our citizens for more than they earn.

If the US reduced military spending to the degree necessary to give our citizens those benefits.... places like China, the middle east, Russia, would go on a country grabbing spree.
Education and healthcare for 350 million people doesn't come cheap.

Yes, allowing generics would definitely help... but that's pretty much a drop in the bucket with the world's current trade policies. Free or govt. subsidized education and healthcare can NOT just be a... here we are at point A, let's just move to point B tomorrow. There are a zillion point Cs, Ds, Es, Fs, etc., etc., etc., that need to be slowly adjusted in order for current education and healthcare policies to be even slowly adjusted.

Just the current morass of healthcare rules that we currently have require people like Skinned, for example, working to help other people understand them. This is the start of attempts to adjust a wildly complicated system around to something more like other countries have. But it's gonna take years, nay, decades for even small changes to occur.


Or maybe you know some secret way to try and help people running around wearing pink pussy hats, understand why they will have to pay even more taxes. They don't even understand why wearing these hats is stupid.






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Ok, my friend, you've used that line about 10 times now. It's getting old. I mean, if it was as classic as your Goebbels line, it would be ok, but...

This post was edited by Ghot on Nov 1 2019 07:57am

Why would you be dead? You would have gotten treatment even if you had no insurance.

Probably, but the 8 meds, they prescribed? I definitely wouldn't be able to afford those. And all the appointments at the VA afterwards...the follow ups.
Etc.

You'd have signed up for disability, Medicare/Medicaid, and charity care at a hospital