Quote (Santara @ Oct 1 2019 02:42am)

The thing is, FAIR is right to include the so-called citizen children of illegal immigrants. As far as I am concerned, when they were born here, they were not "subjects to the jurisdiction thereof" as required by the 14th amendment.

I don't agree with FAIR in wanting to limit legal immigration, I want it to be easier. We are a nation of immigrants. At the same time, I don't wish to see all these people who did their immigration the wrong way rewarded the same as people who did it the right way.

Quote (GodSmiter @ Oct 1 2019 11:07am)

Damn never thought I'd completely agree with both ink and snipa in the same thread...

@Cars - your anecdote sounds like the company sold you guys out for more money and instead you are mad at the illegal Hispanics who are actually getting more exploited than you (since they get paid less). This is clearly a greed issue, what makes you think removing illegals will stop companies from finding other ways to do these same things?

Quote (Handcuffs @ Oct 1 2019 11:10am)

Even if you feel that it is justified to take them into consideration, it is still biased methodology because they're not including the contributions those children make.

Quote (Skinned @ Oct 1 2019 09:51am)

So we need proficiency tests to buy guns according to the constitution now?

Quote (Handcuffs @ Oct 1 2019 01:10pm)

Even if you feel that it is justified to take them into consideration, it is still biased methodology because they're not including the contributions those children make.

Quote (inkanddagger @ Oct 1 2019 01:26pm)

His argument is even easier to tear apart. If they aren’t subject to the jurisdiction thereof then how the fuck is the government subjecting them to its jurisdiction and arresting them? It’s not like Honduras is sending their military up here to collect the children of expatriates. I’m confident the United States would never cede its jurisdiction to them either.

Quote (Santara @ Oct 1 2019 03:03pm)

We need people to have guns in their homes so they can be proficient.



Children contribute $48 billion in tax revenues?



Go back and read, Jud. This has been covered.

Quote (Skinned @ Oct 1 2019 02:10pm)

They need to be proficient first before they have guns in home...so conscription?

Quote (inkanddagger @ Oct 1 2019 12:51pm)

Indeed they are. Do you deny that government provided infrastructure isn't directly responsible for corporate profits? May I direct you to our interstate highway systems and the profit margins of every single corporation that ships goods on them? Our railways? Our rivers and ocean ports?

The government is in fact the largest driver of GDP. This is scientific fact.

Quote (Santara @ Oct 1 2019 12:03pm)

Children contribute $48 billion in tax revenues?

Quote (Santara @ Oct 1 2019 03:16pm)

Participation in the militia is not a condition for the right. It is a justification. The right is quite simply "the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."

Quote (bogie160 @ Oct 1 2019 12:25pm)

Government funded infrastructure is what proportion of the federal budget?

Government spending is massive, ergo it has the single largest individual effect. A better question, if the government didn't exist to spend money, would the money disappear?