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Jul 31 2019 04:07pm
hm well, i wouldnt ban anyone from writing anything unless its directly threatening to someone, language shouldnt matter, no :unsure: ? immigrants cant really make their own little country if you dont accept them in masses like the retarded eu and such :wacko: basically muslims could write whatever they want (unless its an actual threat against someone), but set up the immigration policy in such a way that you dont accept every muslim that tries to enter the country :wacko: if you have 10 muslims in a city of 10 million people, they wont be able to set up shit no matter how hard they try :wacko:


on the other hand, language choices should simply not exist :mellow: if you are living in a country, learn its language or fuck off :mellow: there wouldnt be problems with calling the cops or fire department if you simply know the language. if you happen to be a tourist, just use english as it seems to be used as the universal language now. if you dont know english or the countrys main language, you are visiting the country at your own risk. and i dont really care about the 0.000001% of the cases when for example some shit happens and you happen to be a tourist there that is a witness of a crime and need to call 911 but you dont know english etc
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Quote (Ghot @ Jul 31 2019 05:32pm)
Actually, I'm not. Others are arguing that it is non-Constitutional, and I'm saying: "I'm not so sure about that".
I can see where it could be argued in court that it has nothing to do with the 1st amendment. That it has more to do with the "general health and welfare" of the populace, than it does with the 1st amendment.

It's always easy to say... "Oh that falls under the 1st amendment", when in actuality the 1st amendment is totally silent about the issue.



Maybe folks need to read this...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_amendments_to_the_United_States_Constitution


Notice that it took only 100 days to ratify the 26th amendment, and that after 97 years, the Equal Rights Amendment still hasn't been ratified.
The constitution, and it's amendments are not as cut and dry as most people think.

If for some reason 'signs in different languages in the US ever came to be viewed as not considerate of the "general health and welfare" of the US, it wouldn't take a heartbeat before we had a new amendment. And that doesn't even include some court ruling that may come down, considering the interpretation of the 1st amendment concerning fixed/permanent signs in public places.

I mean, wouldn't you think that the 1st amendment would apply to things like Civil War statues, or lists of the Ten Commandments on the outside of public buildings?


So, I'm going to stick with what I said the the OP. I think that law that China passed is a 'good thing', for reasons I've stated in this topic. (Keeping in mind that they are a totally different country)
In the US, I think a similar law/amendment/ruling, would also be a good thing, excepting maybe the altering of buildings.

In the US, there should be no permanent signs that I for one, can't read.





Oh right. That's what I thought I said.
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Jul 31 2019 04:09pm
Quote (Ghot @ Jul 30 2019 11:50pm)
Sign of the times: China's capital orders Arabic, Muslim symbols taken down

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-religion-islam/sign-of-the-times-chinas-capital-orders-arabic-muslim-symbols-taken-down-idUSKCN1UQ0JF





Good for China!

Now before everyone goes ballistic... I've said before and I mean it. Immigrants should assimilate with countries they emigrate to.
Everyone has their own country and their own culture. Emigrating does not give someone the right to set up their own little country in someone elses.

Personally I'm tired of strret signs in my own country that I can't read. Aka, china towns in places like SF and NYC.
I'm tired of telephone computers and ATMs with language choices. If someone wants to emigrate to America, they should learn English.

This is 2019, there is no reason for this emigrating to another country and setting up your own country in the new country.




Do you also rejoice when they knock down churches and ban the teaching of Christianity?
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Jul 31 2019 04:12pm
Quote (thesnipa @ Jul 31 2019 05:06pm)
What it doesn't say it doesn't protect. Welcome to the constitution

Congress shall make no law. It can't be more clear. What law removed statutes. I'll wait


OP is getting dragged harder than a doctor on a United flight.
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Jul 31 2019 04:16pm







Oh wait... no I can't read the signs. Ya see a bunch of folks that try NOT to think, decided it was a good idea to have signs in their own country that they couldn't read. Imagine that. :lol:











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Quote (Surfpunk @ Jul 31 2019 06:12pm)
OP is getting dragged harder than a doctor on a United flight.


You've been saving that up for a while, haven't you? :D

This post was edited by Ghot on Jul 31 2019 04:18pm
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Jul 31 2019 04:26pm
Quote (thesnipa @ Jul 31 2019 06:06pm)
What it doesn't say it doesn't protect. Welcome to the constitution

Congress shall make no law. It can't be more clear. What law removed statutes. I'll wait


Why are you engaging? Talking to glot is like intellectual self-harm.
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Jul 31 2019 04:35pm
Quote (Skinned @ Jul 31 2019 06:26pm)
Why are you engaging? Talking to glot is like intellectual self-harm.




Especially when everything he says is a crock of misinformation and misleading statements. ^^
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Jul 31 2019 04:36pm
Rename the subforum to clash of different ideologies
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Quote (Nihility @ Jul 31 2019 06:36pm)
Rename the subforum to clash of different ideologies




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Quote (Nihility @ Jul 31 2019 06:36pm)
Rename the subforum to clash of different ideologies


Basically political and religious discussion. If you want nerf discussion ya got Christian fellowship but that's it.

Used to be a lot of things to talk about but now days it's all transexuals and white supremacy.
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