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Quote (Surfpunk @ Sep 13 2018 07:59pm)




777 wing stress test.

Failure at 154% of target. And the target already includes safety margin. Planes are retardedly redundant in terms of engineered safety. Mostly because almost any failure can turn out to be catastrophic.
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777 wing stress test.

Failure at 154% of target. And the target already includes safety margin. Planes are retardedly redundant in terms of engineered safety. Mostly because almost any failure can turn out to be catastrophic.


Normal drag equation suggests it's almost 3x the drag compared to cruising altitude and velocity. With 3 being bigger than 1.5, I dunno ^^.

Jk ofc.. Those numbers are correct, but they don't incorporate the decreased angle of attack to reach the same lift at low altitude/high speed, causing a guesstimated 10%+ drag reduction. (minor, but it add up). The design targets on where the 150% margin is put on, are ofc not the normal cruising speed and altitude forces. They take the more severe weather conditions and possible stalls and bird strikes, The wings need to withstand more than "normal operation". On top of that, is the 150%

If some one wants to look up the design minimum for longitudinal forces on commercial aviation. Be my guest. From what I remember for lift forces that's around 6x, so 6 times the normal operational demand. Longitudinal requirements will likely be lower than the 6x demand, but 3 doesn't seems outlandish. Or make it 1.8x and then add the 150% margin and the 10%+ angle of attack difference ;)

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Sep 14 2018 08:53am
Dat flight simulator argument lmao b)

Quote (Knoppie @ Sep 14 2018 12:21am)
Normal drag equation suggests it's almost 3x the drag compared to cruising altitude and velocity. With 3 being bigger than 1.5, I dunno ^^.

Jk ofc.. Those numbers are correct, but they don't incorporate the decreased angle of attack to reach the same lift at low altitude/high speed, causing a guesstimated 10%+ drag reduction. (minor, but it add up). The design targets on where the 150% margin is put on, are ofc not the normal cruising speed and altitude forces. They take the more severe weather conditions and possible stalls and bird strikes, The wings need to withstand more than "normal operation". On top of that, is the 150%

If some one wants to look up the design minimum for longitudinal forces on commercial aviation. Be my guest. From what I remember for lift forces that's around 6x, so 6 times the normal operational demand. Longitudinal requirements will likely be lower than the 6x demand, but 3 doesn't seems outlandish. Or make it 1.8x and then add the 150% margin and the 10%+ angle of attack difference ;)


Wouldn't it be better to just try it with a normal plane outside and see what happens ? :rolleyes:
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Sep 14 2018 09:01am
Quote (Melatonina @ Sep 14 2018 09:53am)
Dat flight simulator argument lmao b)

Wouldn't it be better to just try it with a normal plane outside and see what happens ? :rolleyes:


Just dodge everything, eh? "Dat flight simulator argument lmao" is such a great rebuttal!
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Quote (Melatonina @ Sep 14 2018 09:53am)
Dat flight simulator argument lmao b)



Wouldn't it be better to just try it with a normal plane outside and see what happens ? :rolleyes:


Dodge

Quote (Santara @ Sep 14 2018 10:01am)
Just dodge everything, eh? "Dat flight simulator argument lmao" is such a great rebuttal!


InB4'd

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Dodge



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This picture seems legit but where is the video showing that airplane ?
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Sep 14 2018 09:39am
Quote (Melatonina @ Sep 14 2018 10:14am)
This picture seems legit but where is the video showing that airplane ?


Why do you require video? How many photos are enough to constitute evidence that an American Airlines Boeing 757 hit the Pentagon?

https://www.quora.com/Why-was-there-no-plane-wreckage-in-9-11-terrorist-attacks-on-the-Pentagon
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Sep 14 2018 09:46am
But here's some video that should help you:

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Why do you require video? How many photos are enough to constitute evidence that an American Airlines Boeing 757 hit the Pentagon?

https://www.quora.com/Why-was-there-no-plane-wreckage-in-9-11-terrorist-attacks-on-the-Pentagon


32 pictures, per second, with multiple seconds worth. :rofl:
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Sep 14 2018 10:08am
Quote (Santara @ Sep 14 2018 04:39pm)
Why do you require video? How many photos are enough to constitute evidence that an American Airlines Boeing 757 hit the Pentagon?

https://www.quora.com/Why-was-there-no-plane-wreckage-in-9-11-terrorist-attacks-on-the-Pentagon


I require it so I know the pictures taken aren't manipulated or the photographer unauthentified like it is suggested there.
http://www.pentagone.info/
Note that they dont conclude on anything about 11/09, they just say official story is wrong on many points, especially with pentagone.

The silence from autorities. Instead of showing that damn video. its deafening.

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