Uh, everything?
You know, considering the reason Putin interfered in the election was as payback for Hillary Clinton's actions in 2011?

Is that true? Putin interfered with the 2016 election because of Hillary Clinton's actions in 2011?



I agree that collusion is unlikely, but what about obstruction of justice or conspiracy? Keep in mind that Watergate took over 2 years to unravel. The Special Counsel was appointed 14 months ago.

look like theres is 2 different things:

the investigation run by your country

the investigation run by Goonshill

first i will have to state that this question is hard to respond to as the word placement is incriminating no matter what answer.
potential russian interference is already known. you would more be asking, what does this have to do with potential criminal charges on trump including the involvement of russia and the 2016 election?

to this i would say, nothing.

if the question asked of you was written properly, i would have to disagree with this. although it's not untrue, so i can't disagree with it as the question was asked of you.

this is my collective response:
a cause may have an effect, but that effect does not justify the next cause.
i should also state that i speak only of justice, not social justice. social justice this phrase does not apply


perhaps some of it, but a good deal had to with clinton's agenda particularly around syria, to my understanding.
it would have pushed usa and russia to war, i believe partly to eliminating viable air-space for russia in the region.
i would have to research and refresh to really say, but i do remember a bit on this.

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you don't think the magnitsky act has anything to do with it?

those journalists deserve it anyway, all are fake news

that's definitely 1 thing. it is global though, not just russia.
https://www.hrw.org/news/2017/09/13/us-global-magnitsky-act


this is the global version that was passed in 2016.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnitsky_Act


i'm also going to add this from the same wiki page.
Trump campaign–Russian meeting
Main article: Trump campaign–Russian meetings


read this last quote slowly please. there are a lot of trigger words used in this.

Yes, yes it is true. Heck, Hillary herself acknowledged it back before the inauguration. Its never been secret.
If you want to read up on it, try these;
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/16/us/politics/hillary-clinton-russia-fbi-comey.html
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/film/putins-revenge/transcript/



Conspiracy is a derivative crime that requires an underlying charge. Someone has to be conspiring to commit a crime
Ie in the Hillary/DNC + Ukrainian embassy collusion (or Hillary -> Perkins Coie -> Fusion GPS -> Steele -> Intermediaries -> Russian agents), even though we can prove there was a secret conspiracy, the underlying action wasn't criminal- sharing information is not a crime and it would be farcical to try to extend campaign finance law to it ala the dumb 'thing of value' theory. Mind, its not something I would put past Mueller especially with Andrew Weissman at the wheel, because its a small jump from using FARA violations to going full blown Logan Act. But the point being, the conspiracy isn't a crime if the action itself isn't a crime.

Obstruction of justice is a whole can of worms where unless someone can show actual concrete steps, flagrant ones, then it becomes a muddled case of intent and selective enforcement. Because there would be an roar of discontent from the Trump supporters if Mueller tries to string up Trump or his allies on some nebulous 'obstruction' charge for taking actions that are within his constitutional roles like firing Comey, while Hillary Clinton was allowed to skate free on destroying evidence even when we had buckets of proof of intent. When the DoJ and FBI just handwave it and say it doesn't count for her, you better have something extremely damning on Trump to try the same thing.

The cultists have exceeded my expectations putting Russian interests ahead of American ones

None at all. Nope.
/thread.

How did this take 12 pages?

Trump can do no wrong in some people's eyes. It's why we call it the Trump 'cult' and not the Trump base.