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Sep 6 2017 07:52am
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I think the EU has already done it's job concerning the taking in of muslim refugees. I think the US has as well.
I don't think the EU or the US govt. have the right to direct their respective states concerning how many refugees they should take.

I think all the countries of the world should get together and make a list of all the countries that WANT muslim refugees. Then the US and the EU should help by providing transportation for those refugees to the countries that want them.


or the people stay where they belong
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Sep 6 2017 08:02am
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or the people stay where they belong




Well, yeah that would be the ultimate solution.
I've always said we should be spending money to get seriously out into space. The world is already over crowded, and folks won't stop making babies.
Ergo, we need more real estate.
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Sep 6 2017 09:06am
Quote (Ghot @ 6 Sep 2017 15:25)
I think the EU has already done it's job concerning the taking in of muslim refugees. I think the US has as well.
I don't think the EU or the US govt. have the right to direct their respective states concerning how many refugees they should take.

I think all the countries of the world should get together and make a list of all the countries that WANT muslim refugees. Then the US and the EU should help by providing transportation for those refugees to the countries that want them.


good suggestion. I'm afraid, however, that the shortness of the resulting list might hurt the feelings of multiculturalists and islam apologists. ^_^


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https://www.chathamhouse.org/expert/comment/what-do-europeans-think-about-muslim-immigration

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In our survey, carried out before President Trump’s executive order was announced, respondents were given the following statement: ‘All further migration from mainly Muslim countries should be stopped’. They were then asked to what extent did they agree or disagree with this statement. Overall, across all 10 of the European countries an average of 55% agreed that all further migration from mainly Muslim countries should be stopped, 25% neither agreed nor disagreed and 20% disagreed.

Majorities in all but two of the ten states agreed, ranging from 71% in Poland, 65% in Austria, 53% in Germany and 51% in Italy to 47% in the United Kingdom and 41% in Spain. In no country did the percentage that disagreed surpass 32%.


ooops ^_^

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Sep 6 2017 12:44pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Sep 6 2017 11:06am)
good suggestion. I'm afraid, however, that the shortness of the resulting list might hurt the feelings of multiculturalists and islam apologists. ^_^


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https://www.chathamhouse.org/expert/comment/what-do-europeans-think-about-muslim-immigration



ooops ^_^


Yeah, I'm pretty sure that most of the western world is getting a bit fed up with muslim immigrants.
I know they aren't all bad, but until they start a tiny country of their own within your country, or start to invoke sharia law, it's kind of hard to tell who's who.

This does make me sad for those that want to immigrate, and to embrace the values of the country they migrate to, but until the immigration officers can read minds...

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Yeah, I'm pretty sure that most of the western world is getting a bit fed up with muslim immigrants.
I know they aren't all bad, but until they start a tiny country of their own within your country, or start to invoke sharia law, it's kind of hard to tell who's who.

This does make me sad for those that want to immigrate, and to embrace the values of the country they migrate to, but until the immigration officers can read minds...


well, when it comes to terrorists with a long-term plot in mind, its indeed almost impossible to spot them. but when it comes to non-terrorist integration-refusers, its quite easy to tell them apart from the worthy ones. here in europe, those who give a shit about our culture, our way of life and our values do so very publicly and without shame.

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well, when it comes to terrorists with a long-term plot in mind, its indeed almost impossible to spot them. but when it comes to non-terrorist integration-refusers, its quite easy to tell them apart from the worthy ones. here in europe, those who give a shit about our culture, our way of life and our values do so very publicly and without shame.




Agreed. I just wish they could tell what kind they are at the border.
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Sep 6 2017 01:13pm
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Agreed. I just wish they could tell what kind they are at the border.


I would already be satisfied if those who openly shit on OUR values would eventually be kicked out again.

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I would already be satisfied if those who openly shit on OUR values would eventually be kicked out again.




I hear that. ^^
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Sep 6 2017 01:18pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ 6 Sep 2017 21:13)
I would already be satisfied if those who openly shit on OUR values would eventually be kicked out again.


i would be satisfied if any illegal couldnt even set foot on our soil and we import some actual engineers etc.

but why would actual qualified people come, wages arent exactly great, ridiculous taxes, public safety is eroding...
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i would be satisfied if any illegal couldnt even set foot on our soil and we import some actual engineers etc.

but why would actual qualified people come, wages arent exactly great, ridiculous taxes, public safety is eroding...




I'm just guessing, but other than the few who are already involved in high standard of living jobs with high wages ...etc., in their own countries, I would think the EU would be a desirable place.
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