Conservatives show their anti-science attitude again, where's the "if x is real, then why do we have y?" pic when you need it...

On a serious note, anecdotes serve as evidence of a possibility, but that's about it. No predicting power. I recall you mentioning your depression some time ago, and while we can't claim any causality, we can definitely say that you're not free of negative mental effectss. The other problem is that you haven't run mental exams on all of your friends who were subjected to spanking. All in all, anecdotes can be interesting, but they really, really serve no purpose. There's virtually zero variable control and no way of ascertaining cause and effect.

This post was edited by Neptunus on Mar 20 2016 04:25pm

...you are one strange little boy

How can you be ok with it?

Would you be ok with, for example, forced isolation for 24 hours in a dark room as punishment to children? Or denial of food for 1 day, or 2 days?

I mean, it's only my opinion that doing so is abusive. Every psychologist says it's harmful, but they say just the same about corporal punishment, so I would have to assume you would be just as fine with it.

Cool, I'm glad everyday that I'm not a cranky old man.

That's a convenient argument. You have shown in the past you haven't been mentally fit your whole life, it must have been the spanking!

I remember being a kid and holding back laughter because my parents never spanked me hard enough for it to actually hurt.



Comparing a few spanks with 24 hour isolation or denial of food is just silly. I think that if you need a behavior to stop immediately, it's probably not a bad thing to spank the kid.

What you bolded contains the part where i said i can't infer causality yet you still call me out on wrongly inferring causality?

And if it didn't hurt, then a) it can't be classified as spanking b ) your parents were wasting their time, missing out on chances of more effective education.

This post was edited by Neptunus on Mar 20 2016 04:46pm

Then why did you bring it up? Arguing that someone isn't free of negative mental states is like... arguing that they are human.

I'm sure it hurt at times, but that particular moment is the only memory I have of spanking.

Clinical depression isn't just a negative state, it's classified as a mental disorder...

Psychology is a junk 'science' to begin with, and spanking is the junkiest of the junk science. Any peabrain can pretend correlation is causation when they isolate an insignificant p-value. Whats that? Corporal punishment is more common in the conservative poorer south and rich parents tend to spare the rod? Well of course you can find a positive correlation to behavioural disorders, drug use, crime and degeneracy among social castes. Modern psychologists very unironically believe that negative reinforcement doesn't work and stick their fingers in their ears when someone says "Skinner". Because its so very easy to commit statistical abuse. The logic and method is clear: Humans respond to both negative and positive reinforcement. Pain and shame can change someones behaviors for the better just as well as rewards and praise. Pretending otherwise is just nonsensical. Torturing the numbers to say pirates cause global warming is something I think should be a crime.

Dr Spock tipped the boulder downhill and set in motion generations of irresponsibility, indulgence and decadence.