It must be tough being called out on lies by a person you perceive as delusional.

You only see this life which will last just under 100 years. I look to the next life which will last 10,000 years and then forevermore.

Step 1: Die

Get to it Christians

We first have to tell you about the good news that you have been saved by grace and how you need to accept Jesus into your life to receive the eternal life, given freely among the rebels.

For God so loved us that he damned us to hell if we don't use the free will he gave us the way he wants us to use it.

God created things which had free will. That means creatures which can go either wrong or right. Some people think they can imagine a creature which was free but had no possibility of going wrong; I cannot. If a thing is free to be good it is also free to be bad. And free will is what has made evil possible. Why, then, did God give them free will? Because free will though it makes evil possible, is also the only thing that makes possible any love or goodness or joy worth having. A world of automata-of creatures that worked like machines-would hardly be worth creating. The happiness which God designs for His higher creatures is the happiness of being freely, voluntarily united to Him and to each other in an ecstasy of love and delight compared with which the most rapturous love between a man and a woman on this earth is mere milk and water. And for that they must be free.

Of course God knew what would happen if they used their freedom the wrong way: apparently He thought it worth the risk. Perhaps we feel inclined to disagree with Him. But there is a difficulty about disagreeing with God. He is the source from which all your reasoning power comes: you could not be right and He wrong any more than a stream can rise higher than its own source. When you are arguing against Him you are arguing against the very power that makes you able to argue at all: it is like cutting off the branch you are sitting on. If God thinks this state of war in the universe a price worth paying for free will-that is, for making a live world in which creatures can do real good or harm and something of real importance can happen, instead of a toy world which only moves when He pulls the strings-then we may take it it is worth paying.

Is God free?

It seems with this statement you are putting a limit on what God can do based on your own imagination. God can do anything, even make a free being who never went against his wishes.

This post was edited by Thor123422 on Aug 19 2015 12:01am

God did with Pharaoh, The LORD hardened his heart. What is your point?

No, that isn't an example. Pharaoh can go wrong, he is human.

God could have created humans such that they had free will, but never chose to do the wrong thing. God certainly has free will but can never do the wrong thing, so it is possible. It doesn't mean anything that you can't imagine it happening, God is greater than you.