Should doesn't play into it, or rights.

They don't have the capability to stop the people they think are evil(America, Israel, forward-thinking Muslims, etc.) from acquiring nuclear weapons.

We have that capability, we can say this religious totalitarian that has been a consistent sponsor of global terror does not get nuclear weapons, because we think their behavior is evil and because we can stop it.

Oh ok, you're right, I apologize for real this time. It still is a pointless rhetorical question though, unless you really don't know the answer(as you didn't in the case of Iran) and need me to break it down for you.

I love that american Christian morality has degraded to just "might makes right and we're the good guys"

I hope for ur sake this whole ideology ur caught up in dies with the cheeto man or you might have the allied forces storming Florida

Western thinking is right, comparatively, because it's self-correcting. We have the ability to criticize the actions of our governments, the dogma of our priests and the findings of our scientists. This is why we've ended up on top, we throw out old ideas when they stop working.

Religious zealots like those in charge of Iran do not have this practice. Their views must consistently match those found in a book of philosophy written over a thousand years ago.

Might does not make right, in this case right has made might.

I don’t think you are capable of breaking it down in a logically consistent manner to be honest. I think you have made it clear you care about the israeli agenda more than the American agenda. I operated under the assumption you were American.

But like I said to the other Israeli poster, I completely understand their view point. Why do the heavy lifting of regime change in these nations when you can have the US do it for you. Why expend your lives and $$$ when another nation will. Israel is on track to being not just the regional power, but a legitimate superpower. Like I said 2 years ago they will completely annex Gaza/wb/southern Lebanon by 2028. Energy frictions will benefit Israel. Netanyahu is absolutely furthering Israeli interests.

The Israeli mindset is leave us be we dont need anything else.

I don't care about Israel's agenda at all except insofar as it aligns with ours.

Unfortunately, as the world's greatest superpower our agenda is the peace, freedom and prosperity of the entire globe. It's a difficult agenda to follow for a lot of reasons. To achieve peace you must wage war in many cases, and war is hell. People seem to assume that's some sort of exaggeration but it's very literal. Women and children have died in every war in human history. It's literally the worst thing.

If Palestine supported peace and freedom rather than terrorism and religious extremist subjugation I would be on their side. I say this a lot. If military personnel dragged the brutalized naked body of a teenage Palestinian girl behind a truck through crowded streets in America or Israel, the response of the public would be revulsion across the board. You can go watch the video of thousands of Palestinians reacting instead with elation.

Ohh ok so Linsey graham. Got it, yeah spread that freedom. That is certainly the American agenda here I wish I would have known from the get go. I forgot there are some people in our generation that actually think that is the motivation here. Makes sense why you think Israel supported a 2 state solution for the last 2 decades, only unlike Linsey you weren’t paid for delusional thoughts

I saw that video. It was disgusting. It is not difficult for me to say that at all. Just like it is disgusting to shoot gazan 8 year olds in testicles or 6 year olds in faces. Do you really want to talk about the professionalism of the Israeli military. Absolutely disgusting and above all shameless. No repercussions for any war crimes they have committed. I am happy we can agree that the actions of the IDF are on par with Hamas terrorists though. We will agree to disagree on American intentions, pard brings out some weird characters. I hope you start caring more for your fellow Americans than people across the world. You should also spend less time watching CNN and Fox

This post was edited by Bazi on Mar 21 2026 09:59pm

Right, that is why Netanyahu has taken 7 trips to the US in the last 3 years. To tell us we don’t need you. I wonder if some of you actually believe what you write

Well no, that's a mischaracterization of my views but I only spoke generally. Spreading freedom is a tertiary concern.

The primary concern is preserving our own and making sure these countries aren't fucking up the peace and prosperity of nations willing to contribute to the modern world.

Secondary is to get them to contribute to the peace and prosperity of the world. Spreading freedom follows that.


We don't have to agree to disagree on your next point though, obviously I also think it's disgusting to shoot gazan 8 year olds in testicles or 6 year olds in faces. The difference is, as I said, Palestinians do not react with disgust to the murder of children, so long as the children are Jewish. That's indefensible.

I don't watch the news at all. It's funny for you to pretend that I have common views, you'll find no instance in this forum(or almost anywhere else) of me agreeing with anyone and very few if any instances of anyone agreeing with me.

You are the one with the lowest effort view that most people share in this case. Look around this forum, 90% of the posters here agree with you. Some people might take that as a compliment.