Quote (Goomshill @ Dec 7 2024 08:29pm)
Its all quite irrelevant. Its a story about some random person being murdered over a perceived societal grievance by a radical, who probably didn't know who he was shooting at beyond a healthcare CEO, and not sure which.
People have longstanding grievances with healthcare in America. It is fundamentally a social service set up specifically to do good and save lives, which it does. It is the instrument by which those with means give to those in need. I pay high premiums and receive no benefits, others pay nothing and receive much. There are plenty of ways it has gone astray and I for one always supported full nationalization of healthcare and research and drug production, bit none of that sums up to a crusade to kill people on a vague sense of their identity.
13% of the population are black people who commit 50% of the murders. The rates of black on white homicide, rape, aggravated assault and robbery are all orders of magnitude higher than the inverse. They pay less in taxes and consume more in social services. Does this justify a racist shooter who goes to a ghetto and starts gunning down random black men? Longstanding deep societal issues, blaming the people who are responsible. So go out and kill some random person with no idea who they are or what they've done.
Again, this is the single most pernicious strain of disease blightinf modern history. If a man with a gun drags away the guy next to you and shoots him in the head and tells you he was an enemy of the revolution, will you cheer his death? One man got murdered by one radical, but he's a hero to millions of people who think their indiscriminate violence and hatred are justified.
Its something beyond the mere concern of civil liberties and need for impartial justice. Its not an issue of pacifism or aversion to change. Its that simple streak of basic human decency that should override the impulse to join and support mob violence. That if you see such a degenerate display of hatred and malice, it should repulse you
hang on, and understand i respect you, and am not looking for trouble:
1. it is a longstanding grievance for a lot of people, how the medical industry has treated customers, sick people, very poorly in the USA.
2. it is well known, in the USA, and around the world, that USA healthcare is a joke (the world looks at US healthcare and laughs in disbelief). this is not against the very good Dr's and Nurses, but rather the OBSCENE costs in tandem with this NON PAYMENT of claims.
3. full nationalization of healthcare, amen. alas, no sign of this. not sure re: vague sense of identity, if referring to the shooting, its more like an assassination, per-meditated, not random.
4. this shooting does not look random,the guy knew clearly who he was shooting or am i missing something? / i am skipping over the black stuff.
5. there is no hero here. but why this is a story that is hitting the headlines around the world is baffling. there are far bigger stories then some disgruntled patient or family member shooting some CEO. If it is a symptom of US poor people striking at the the entitled. but again, there is no reason for this to be international news.
6. tbh it repulses me that the industry of health in the US tries to take the last penny from their customers, and then has the audacity to then not pay out on claims. that is totally lacking in human decency.
TLDR: For years we were hearing about USA being #1. when the cost of medication is so much higher then peer countries, when its medical industry is so much worse then its peer competitors and when there is endemic medical issues in the country, there is clearly something wrong. if thats not accepted or recognized then it will only continue / get worse.
This post was edited by ferdia on Dec 7 2024 03:40pm