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May 31 2024 12:09am
Quote (Thor123422 @ May 31 2024 02:07am)
Bro for Trump's entire presidency no matter how many times I asked you, the only thing you EVER criticized him on was for the bump stock ban.

I asked you dozens of times and all you gave me was "Trump bad" when I asked about the bump stock ban.

I don't have to do a lot of work when you literally refuse for years at a time to ever lay a single criticism on republicans.


You are a brazen liar and gross person. Gfy
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Quote (IceMage @ May 31 2024 12:01am)
The press release is citing the Senate Intelligence Committee report, which was led by Republicans at the time, and produced with their approval, which said that Trump's campaign chairman handed over campaign polling data to a Russian intelligence officer, during the campaign. VP hopeful Marco Rubio is the guy who led the committee when that report came out. Lawl. Bet he regrets that moment of integrity.


His campaign chief was convicted of working with Russa.
The investigation revealed he was trying to work with Russia and was only stopped by massive incompetence.
Trump revealed secrets to Putin so often that Israel and UK intelligence sources stopped giving us information.


and yet morons will still argue he didn't work with Russia becuase he didn't literally take marching orders directly from Putin.
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May 31 2024 12:11am
Quote (cambovenzi @ May 31 2024 12:09am)
You are a brazen liar and gross person. Gfy


You can be as mad as you want but it's not a lie that I asked you for literal years and you refused to ever give a meaningful critcism.
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Quote (Thor123422 @ May 30 2024 11:10pm)
His campaign chief was convicted of working with Russa.
The investigation revealed he was trying to work with Russia and was only stopped by massive incompetence.
Trump revealed secrets to Putin so often that Israel and UK intelligence sources stopped giving us information.


and yet morons will still argue he didn't work with Russia becuase he didn't literally take marching orders directly from Putin.


As a seasoned political observer the last 10 years the clearest sign someone is politically biased and unknowledgeable is if they claim that Russiagate was an injustice against Trump. This applies to 8/10 Trump supporters on this forum, lol.
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May 31 2024 12:15am
Quote (cambovenzi @ May 31 2024 01:05am)
I tore apart several of your positions and you responded with fox news, republican, criminal and wonderland.

In particular you were embarrassingly wrong on russian collusion and blm/antifa riots.

I read your source. I correctly identified it as a democrat think tank that misrepresented the findings. I pointed out that what they falsely claimed was 'damning russian collusion' was actually proof of democrat wrongdoing posted by wikileaks.
The actual reports found there wasn't collusion, but you went with literal false propaganda instead.


You didn't tear apart a single one? You just said, "nuh uh!", like with the Russian collusion. I didn't say read the article, I said read the actual russian investigation, yet you refuse and go down some other talk point with zero sources.

All you're providing is propaganda, and not even including a source to it.
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Quote (IceMage @ May 30 2024 11:44pm)
Seriously though, there's principled libertarians and there's others.


for real there's no such thing as a principaled right-wing libertarian.

The main reason is that "aggression" is not really defined, and you can justify virtually all oppression as long as you don't say it's the government doing it.

Government censors speech? Oppression. A company that owns the entire town cenesors speeech? Totally fine. You agreed to it when you took the job.


The actual people who started the libertarian movement like Adam Smith wrote about how wages were a form of slavery and landlords were leaches that drain from the system. They gave way to libertarian socialism, which is the actual roots of libertarianism that was co-opted by right-wing propagandists to produce the bastard that is conservative libertarianism.

The only ideologically consistent libertarians are leftists. You can't lick corporate boot and care about freedom.

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Quote (Pyrotechx @ May 31 2024 02:15am)
You didn't tear apart a single one? You just said, "nuh uh!", like with the Russian collusion. I didn't say read the article, I said read the actual russian investigation, yet you refuse and go down some other talk point with zero sources.

All you're providing is propaganda, and not even including a source to it.


The propaganda you posted said collusion was proven because oh no Roger Stone dared to talk to Julian Assange and wikileaks exposed democrat crimes and wrongdoing. Good for them.

Meanwhile even MSM source after source says no direct evidence of conspiracy was found.

"After two years and 200 interviews, the Senate Intelligence Committee is approaching the end of its investigation into the 2016 election, having uncovered no direct evidence of a conspiracy between the Trump campaign and Russia, according to both Democrats and Republicans on the committee." -Nbc


The blm/antifa thing is a total joke on your part. Mass destruction compared to some guys who got into fights with antifa thugs. But you like one and buy into the propaganda so you think its not as bad.
Just not a serious line of thinking at all. I dont need to bother to post stats about how much damage was done. Everyone who isn't defective and brainwashed knows you are wrong on that. Deep down even you do.
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May 31 2024 12:31am
Cute montage.. I'm Canadian so I'm not sure why you'd blame me for not taking side (this isn't political to me),
but pointing the finger at someone with no character seems necessary. I've known this after the 2-3 minutes he spoke 2 years
prior to him presenting himself to be president. A dude yanked the mic from his hands and recanted everything this empty shell said.
I told myself: "I don't ever wanna hear this guy talk ever again". If you doubt that he's a moron... utter these words, first: "I don't know".
These words exonerate you from judgement and this "process" (it is a linguistic tool) makes you inquisitive facing any controversy... you are not your opinions,
but these thoughts (accessible or not) will influence your decisions and actions. Taking things personal when they're just "ideas" is why people
You liked didn't reciprocate. Take control over your own mind. You're the cause for your seclusion and anger. Take care everyone... and yes,
you can use (whoever you are) what I just said to help "trump supporters" <-- you can transpose the words to any number of cases where the interlocutor
is unable to see past his own two feet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwcjDO6JCVQ
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May 31 2024 12:34am
Quote (cambovenzi @ May 31 2024 12:24am)
The propaganda you posted said collusion was proven because oh no Roger Stone dared to talk to Julian Assange and wikileaks exposed democrat crimes and wrongdoing. Good for them.
Meanwhile even MSM source after source says no direct evidence of conspiracy was found.
"After two years and 200 interviews, the Senate Intelligence Committee is approaching the end of its investigation into the 2016 election, having uncovered no direct evidence of a conspiracy between the Trump campaign and Russia, according to both Democrats and Republicans on the committee." -Nbc
The blm/antifa thing is a total joke on your part. Mass destruction compared to some guys who got into fights with antifa thugs. But you like one and buy into the propaganda so you think its not as bad.
Just not a serious line of thinking at all. I dont need to bother to post stats about how much damage was done. Everyone who isn't defective and brainwashed knows you are wrong on that. Deep down even you do.


Actual group oppressed by the government protests
"WHY ARE THEY DESTROYING THE CITY! THE POLICE SHOULD LOCK THEM ALL UP! I AM A LIBERTARIAN!"

Republican get convicted of crime he definitely did
"LITERAL GOVERNMENT OPPRESSION. ALL FORCE IS JUSTIFIED. I AM STILL A LIBERTARIAN"

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May 31 2024 12:38am
Quote (cambovenzi @ May 31 2024 01:24am)
The propaganda you posted said collusion was proven because oh no Roger Stone dared to talk to Julian Assange and wikileaks exposed democrat crimes and wrongdoing. Good for them.

Meanwhile even MSM source after source says no direct evidence of conspiracy was found.

"After two years and 200 interviews, the Senate Intelligence Committee is approaching the end of its investigation into the 2016 election, having uncovered no direct evidence of a conspiracy between the Trump campaign and Russia, according to both Democrats and Republicans on the committee." -Nbc


The blm/antifa thing is a total joke on your part. Mass destruction compared to some guys who got into fights with antifa thugs. But you like one and buy into the propaganda so you think its not as bad.
Just not a serious line of thinking at all. I dont need to bother to post stats about how much damage was done. Everyone who isn't defective and brainwashed knows you are wrong on that. Deep down even you do.


See, you just choose to not read everything. That same document states that multiple Trump administration were in contact with Russia, and that Russia was actively interfering in the election, and you can guess for who. Take a guess, maybe Trump? Ding ding ding. So, you cling on to that little sentence that Trump wasn't directly tied to working with Russia, even though a lot of his administration was... but no no, no collusion at all ;)

As for the blm/antifa stuff, if rioters did get involved (and it was found out that a lot of riots were started by right wing extremists), then I do believe they should be prosecuted, so nice try there. Also, if you're not antifa then you're a fascist, so which are you?

Again, proud boys are terrorists, and I didn't see any blm trying to overthrow the govt on Jan 6th.

So yea, don't post any stats or sources, cause you know you'll lose that debate.

This post was edited by Pyrotechx on May 31 2024 12:42am
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