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Oct 7 2023 10:30am
Quote (sirthom @ Oct 6 2023 07:01am)
People on juries watch the same kind of stuff.
Digging into every detail and not once, but twice.
For the defense and the prosecution.
Why don't you hate them for doing it?


A jury may watch them as part of facilitating a legal process. You watch them because...?
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Oct 7 2023 11:06am
If people are curious and want to learn more about Jews in America, one good place is the microblogging site Gab.com

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Please provide a source if possible for claims and I would rather not watch long videos on the topic, if you feel one is necessary to understand something please provide a reason why, otherwise I'd rather shorter videos like 5-10 mins but your own words would be best.


I mean, you can choose to not want to watch super-long videos, that is your right. But it's like someone said, it is not possible to distill everything about Jews into a few hours' worth of videos or even a few days'.

I remember first learning about Jews and their ways, it was on stormfront. It was a huge board and there were tons of people. I lurked there for many years, and this is how I learned about Jews.

If you genuinely want to know more, you will probably need to invest significantly more time than that.

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With that out of the way, what I'm wondering is what conspiracy involving Jewish people do people believe in and why?


When you say "conspiracy", it tells me that you are not being open-minded. You call it "conspiracy". So before we have a chance to change your mind, you are shutting us out already.

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I mean, you can choose to not want to watch super-long videos, that is your right. But it's like someone said, it is not possible to distill everything about Jews into a few hours' worth of videos or even a few days'.

I remember first learning about Jews and their ways, it was on stormfront. It was a huge board and there were tons of people. I lurked there for many years, and this is how I learned about Jews.

If you genuinely want to know more, you will probably need to invest significantly more time than that.



When you say "conspiracy", it tells me that you are not being open-minded. You call it "conspiracy". So before we have a chance to change your mind, you are shutting us out already.


Well, you didn't seem particularly well educated about Jewish people when I asked you about your views before so I doubt you have actually done much real research apart from reading things you know will confirm your beliefs and ignoring anything else.

Do you know the definition of conspiracy Jessie? What word should I have used instead?

This thread was going so well too, why make it toxic Jessie :(

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Well, you didn't seem particularly well educated about Jewish people when I asked you about your views before so I doubt you have actually done much real research apart from reading things you know will confirm your beliefs and ignoring anything else.


There was no confirming of anything, because I didn't have any preconceived notions or any biases towards Jews, prior to stormfront.

You say that I am not well educated about Jews, that might be true. But the way I see it, I don't need an in-depth knowledge about Jews in order to know their many bad influences on America. It's kind of like being in a criminal trial. I don't need to know the detailed background of the accused or what happened to him during his childhood, in order to determine his guilt.

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Do you know the definition of conspiracy Jessie? What word should I have used instead?


You could say, "the many bad things that Jews did" or something like it. I know it's a bit clunky, but it's probably better than "conspiracy".

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This thread was going so well too, why make it toxic Jessie :(


How did I make it "toxic"? Dizzy don't be cray-cray.

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There was no confirming of anything, because I didn't have any preconceived notions or any biases towards Jews, prior to stormfront.

Ah ok, so at what point exactly in your years of totally objective research on stormfront did you realize jews were a problem? Did you not know the reputation of that website before visiting it?

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You say that I am not well educated about Jews, that might be true. But the way I see it, I don't need an in-depth knowledge about Jews in order to know their many bad influences on America. It's kind of like being in a criminal trial. I don't need to know the detailed background of the accused or what happened to him during his childhood, in order to determine his guilt.
I disagree completely, talking about entire groups of people as a problem isn't something that should be done without spending time researching the group and the problems, only researching one side creates fanatics.


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You could say, "the many bad things that Jews did" or something like it. I know it's a bit clunky, but it's probably better than "conspiracy".
I could but I chose the word I did because it best describes what I wanted to discuss in this thread, no one else seemed to take issue with it. I realize it has a negative connotation but considering you hold extremely socially unacceptable views I'm surprised you take offense at something as mild as that.



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How did I make it "toxic"? Dizzy don't be crazed.
By coming in with bad faith arguments. If you have nothing to add then just don't comment. Notice how the other users that posted gave me their opinions and then we discussed them? Telling me I can't understand without years of research is not how you start a conversation

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Oct 7 2023 12:32pm
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Ah ok, so at what point exactly in your years of totally objective research on stormfront did you realize jews were a problem? Did you not know the reputation of that website before visiting it?


I don't see it as research. It was more like finally hearing true opposing voices.

I also didn't let stormfront's "reputation" deter me. Jew-hating is socially unacceptable, of course lemmings like you smear a site like stormfront. And you probably think you are being a good citizen, lmao.

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I disagree completely, talking about entire groups of people as a problem isn't something that should be done without spending time researching the group and the problems, only researching one side creates fanatics.


I disagree with your disagreement completely, :D

Either Jews did something bad or they didn't. I don't need to study their entire history, culture, religion...etc in order to determine whether they, say, were responsible for the 9/11.

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I could but I chose the word I did because it best describes what I wanted to discuss in this thread, no one else seemed to take issue with it. I realize it has a negative connotation but considering you hold extremely socially unacceptable views I'm surprised you take offense at something as mild as that.


Extremely socially unacceptable views. Ah yes, that's exactly the problem. We here in the West should have the freedom to discuss anything we want, in the name of search for truth. But we don't. We censor one another, as in, there are topics that we absolutely mustn't touch. And you call this free?


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By coming in with bad faith arguments. If you have nothing to add then just don't comment. Notice how the other users that posted gave me their opinions and then we discussed them? Telling me I can't understand without years of research is not how you start a conversation


Sorry dizzy, but you don't get to decide whether my arguments are "bad faith" or not. I will continue to say whatever I want to say, and there is nothing you can do about it besides not engaging me.

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I don't see it as research. It was more like finally hearing true opposing voices.

I also didn't let stormfront's "reputation" deter me. Jew-hating is socially unacceptable, of course lemmings like you smear a site like stormfront. And you probably think you are being good citizens, lmao.
Oh I see, i guess you just can't seem to remember what any of them said to make an actual argument, just vague assurances you are correct. Cool, seems super legit, can't believe I ever questioned your vast and irrefutable knowledge :hail:



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I disagree with your disagreement completely, :D

Either Jews did something bad or they didn't. I don't need to study their entire history, culture, religion...etc in order to determine whether they, say, were responsible for the 9/11.
stuff like this is why people think you are a fed lmao



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Extremely socially unacceptable views. Ah yes, that's exactly the problem. We here in the West should have the freedom to discuss anything we want, in the name of search for truth. But we don't. We censor one another, as in, there are topics that we absolutely mustn't touch. And you call this free?
I have never called it free.




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Sorry dizzy, but you don't get to decide whether my arguments are "bad faith" or not. I will continue to say whatever I want to say, and there is nothing you can do about it besides not engaging me.
Yes I do, and post away, I'll just dunk on you till the thread gets closed. Fed infiltration successful lmao
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Oct 7 2023 12:44pm
Quote (DizzyBusiness @ Oct 7 2023 11:43am)
Oh I see, i guess you just can't seem to remember what any of them said to make an actual argument, just vague assurances you are correct. Cool, seems super legit, can't believe I ever questioned your vast and irrefutable knowledge :hail:



stuff like this is why people think you are a fed lmao



I have never called it free.




Yes I do, and post away, I'll just dunk on you till the thread gets closed. Fed infiltration successful lmao


Yea, you are totally dunking on me. :rolleyes:
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Quote (JessiWan @ Oct 7 2023 03:44pm)
Yea, you are totally dunking on me. :rolleyes:


Nothing else to say? Good chat, thanks for sharing your educated opinion, really learned a lot :thumbsup:
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