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Jun 8 2023 07:09pm
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Tell me you don't know how to apply Occams Razor without telling me.


I know you don't know how to apply naturalistic fallacy, and you had no trouble telling me, lol.
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It is an undeniable fact that black people are still systemically oppressed. To say otherwise admits you are not willing to look at objective facts. You can wax on about how the treatment is justified, but the fact is the treatment exists. You can normalize it six ways to sunday even down to the same city block and you will still come to the same conclusion.

Meanwhile, the treatment being protested against by right-wingers in relation to trans people is non-existant. There is no systemic attempt to turn kids trans. No systemic child abuse in the LGBT movement. No political interferrence in the medical process in favor of trans people outside of what is born out by peer reviewed medical evidence (and in fact there is a metric shit ton of inteferrence in direct opposition to the evidence).


These are objectively verifiable facts.

People can look at a set of facts and still arrive at different conclusions. Such as, how much of a problem they are, whether they call for an intervention, and if they do, what kind of interventions are needed.

Take your systemic racism against black people as one example. I do agree that they face such discrimination. However, you need to prove to me how this justifies the use of violence. I am sure you will very quickly find that this is a highly subjective endeavor.

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There is no way to justify the right-wing bomb threats on Target because the thing they are protesting against DOES NOT EXIST. Meanwhile, even if you disagree with the violence that was around the Floyd protests, the treatment they were experiencing which precipitated the protests ACTUALLY EXISTS.

That's a critical distinction. If there was actual a pedo gang millions strong attempting to molest kids all across the country then violent resistance could be justified. But it doesn't exist. It is a fabrication. A lie. And as a result, any attempt to resist is morally wrong. See, morals aren't just about what you believe at the time when you willingly keep yourself ignorant.


Your post boils down to: my side is justified in employing violence. But your side isn't, because I don't recognize your issues as being legitimate. I find that the lefties have a really hard time looking at things from another's perspective.

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Jun 8 2023 08:19pm
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the only chumps in this scenario are the ones supporting the discrimination of voters based on their race, education or income.
chumps just like you, lil hoglet


the left pulls this stunt all the time. BLM goly its nammed BLM black lives matter so they must be about black lives...........nope it was a scam
antiifa or anti fascist golly they named them selves anti fascist they really must be anti fascist then they turn out to be the biggest fascists
people are liars time you figured that out...
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Jun 8 2023 10:01pm
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Violence absolutely can be an acceptable form of protest if the situation is bad enough.


I say that the situation the right faces is "bad enough". Therefore their use of violence is justified. Prove that I am wrong. And please don't ask how I reached this conclusion, it's not the point. Any time you have a situation that comes down to a subjective judgment ( "if the situation is bad enough"), it's a poor way to approach an issue. Different people are going to reach different conclusions.

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Jun 8 2023 10:45pm
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I say that the situation the right faces is "bad enough". Therefore their use of violence is justified. Prove that I am wrong. And please don't ask how I reached this conclusion, it's not the point. Any time you have a situation that comes down to a subjective judgment ( "if the situation is bad enough"), it's a poor way to approach an issue. Different people are going to reach different conclusions.


so youre a terrorist sympathizer?
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Jun 8 2023 11:03pm
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Your post boils down to: my side is justified in employing violence. But your side isn't, because I don't recognize your issues as being legitimate. I find that the lefties have a really hard time looking at things from another's perspective.


Not that I don't recognize the "issue" as legitimate, because the "issue" is fabricated. It is a lie. Plain and simple.

Believe it or not, but sometimes you have to look at the facts of the case and arrive at a conclusion. Not just say "well, they did a bomb threat, but they really believe something, so they are blameless". No, they did a bomb threat over an issue that does not exist. That's morally wrong.

Why are conservatives such cowards?
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Jun 8 2023 11:19pm
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Not that I don't recognize the "issue" as legitimate, because the "issue" is fabricated. It is a lie. Plain and simple.

Believe it or not, but sometimes you have to look at the facts of the case and arrive at a conclusion. Not just say "well, they did a bomb threat, but they really believe something, so they are blameless". No, they did a bomb threat over an issue that does not exist. That's morally wrong.

Why are conservatives such cowards?





No one knows for sure WHO actually did the bomb threat.
I mean are we supposed to beleieve the bomb threat guy, on the phone, also claimed which political party he was in? LOL?
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Jun 8 2023 11:25pm
I don't know about you folks, but this doesn't look like a right wing threat to me...

https://www.cleveland19.com/2023/05/26/cleveland-19-news-receives-bomb-threat-against-5-targets-stores-face-lgbtq-controversy/







https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2023/05/26/target-stores-in-utah-receive-bomb-threats-over-pride-month-collection/70262837007/



Every article I can find says the bomb threats were due to Target "removing" it's pride merchandise.
That sounds like a LEFTY threat to me.


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Jun 8 2023 11:39pm
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I don't know about you folks, but this doesn't look like a right wing threat to me...

https://www.cleveland19.com/2023/05/26/cleveland-19-news-receives-bomb-threat-against-5-targets-stores-face-lgbtq-controversy/

https://i.imgur.com/hgGCMMe.png
https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2023/05/26/target-stores-in-utah-receive-bomb-threats-over-pride-month-collection/70262837007/

Every article I can find says the bomb threats were due to Target "removing" it's pride merchandise.
That sounds like a LEFTY threat to me.


I love how you guys claim psyops every time the most obviously right wing shit happens then miss the most obvious shit
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Jun 8 2023 11:47pm
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I love how you guys claim psyops every time the most obviously right wing shit happens then miss the most obvious shit




Looks like you just had a reading comprehension problem.
The right may have been protesting the pride merchandise, but the bomb threats didn't happen until that merchandise was "removed".

Once again the left resorts to violence, and tries to blame the right.
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